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Reading JB's recent article Medium Mediums he uses that line in describing the 358 Norma Mag got me thinking that this subject would be an interesting topic. My vote would be for the 358's cousin the 308 Norma Magnum. Although today a round with a belt is not considered cool by some there is little to none to criticise in this round's design and would have been a better fit in some of the actions available when the 300 Win Mag was introduced. I am not saying the 300 WM is bad just that I think the 308 Norma is better. It just shows that having the best design doesn't neccessarly mean success. I also think that 35 cal rifles should have had a faster twist as well like the 1 in 12 twist on my Whelen
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Maybe the 356 Winchester. You know, a pretty powerful cartridge in a short package. A brilliant woods cartridge with the trajectory to reach out across a field if need be.
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Cartridges that deserved better:
350 Rem Mag;
358 Win; and
284 Win.
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Cartridges that deserved better:
350 Rem Mag;
358 Win; and
284 Win.
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Another vote for 358 win.
How about 30-06. It could pretty much do everything that needed to be done 101 years ago yet the gun and ammo makers have dissed it by comming out with about a zillon new cartridges just to do what the 06 already does.
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I'm a fan of the .375 Win.
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Cartridges that deserved better:
350 Rem Mag;
358 Win; and
284 Win.
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My nomination is the .376 Steyr. I tried to get Steyr-Mannlicher to market it as the 21st century design of the 9.3X62, but they could not wrap their minds around that concept. I killed the largest animal ( a metric ton) I have killed in Africa with it. ![[Linked Image]](http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c270/HunterJim/JimKenneth.jpg) jim
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The .260
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357 Max. It is a wonderfully effective and efficient cartridge.Out of carbines or handguns.
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Most under-appreciated cartridges to me:
Rifles:
318 Westley-Richards
35 Newton and
a whole bunch of Euro-metrics that are too numerous to list
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338/06 and it also deserved a better name at the end of it.
2nd would be the 358win.
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In order of caliber:
1) .25-20
2).300 Savage (Guess where the .308 started and where TC went with the .30 TC?)
3).348 Winchester
4) 450-400 3 1/4"
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.260 Remington.........
.280 Remington, too, for that matter.
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338/06 and it also deserved a better name at the end of it.
2nd would be the 358win. I agree on the 338-06. I love it and all that have one seem to love it. Recoil is moderate and the ballastics are good with bullets weighing from 180-225 grains. I do not know why more companies do not chamber it and I agree, 338-06 Remington or Winchester or 338 American could be better names
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.284Win,and 8MM Rem Mag.The big 8mm is the perfect moose/elk rifle for BC,and will give a pretty fair punch to an unwelcome grizzly.I load mine with 220gr A-Frames,at around 3000fps. Monashee
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The .358 Win. is an easy choice. Also overlooked is the .41 mag. in handguns (and possibly rifles too).
One not mentioned so far is the 6mm Rem. If it had been properly marketed (with a proper twist rate) the .243 Win. would be trying to play catch-up.
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