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Originally Posted by CCCC
I've heard folks say that it is easier to shoot wolves than it is to shoot coyotes.

Whoever told you that was either pulling your leg or has no idea of what he is talking about lol

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Originally Posted by KillerBee
Originally Posted by CCCC
I've heard folks say that it is easier to shoot wolves than it is to shoot coyotes.

Whoever told you that was either pulling your leg or has no idea of what he is talking about lol

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I’ve heard tale of collars getting stuck under interstate semi trailers. All that was left was the collar.


California needs the grizzly too, it’s on the state flag FFS.

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Originally Posted by Osky
People sure get enamored with Apex predators. In a Minnesota the people want a forever ban on harming wolves. These are the people who don’t live up here in wolf country and have no clue how unmanaged wolf populations can damage the ecosystem. Same folks who visit up here and maybe 1 in 5000(?) will actually see a wolf.
They all think it’s going to be like Yellowstone with happy, bounding, playing, strings of multi colored wolves loping along in front of them. Never mind what mayhem they cause other game populations.

I’ve helped here in northern MN with problem wolves and I can say from that side of things the ranchers that lose livestock never get fairly compensated in the end. I suggested long ago they just put up towers every so many square miles with speakers and every night at sundown play a few wolf howls for the visitors. It will be the closest to wild wolves the vast majority will ever get.

Good luck in California hopefully your people have more brains in managing wolves than the idiots in Minnesota.

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The wolf managers in Michigan are at the top of the list of not knowing how to manage the wolves....one season 43 wolves were shot and there will be never a season again....
2 years ago I go rid of my home in the UP....got tired of Idiots running the DNR and having to protect my dogs with wolves coming right in my front yard in the middle of the day and not being allowed to anything about it.....
If it wasn't for the Mackinaw straights there would be wolves in the Lower Peninsula then maybe something would be done....have herd some stories of wolves in the Lower but 5 miles of cold water is a long ways to go.....

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Originally Posted by coyotewacker
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People sure get enamored with Apex predators. In a Minnesota the people want a forever ban on harming wolves. These are the people who don’t live up here in wolf country and have no clue how unmanaged wolf populations can damage the ecosystem. Same folks who visit up here and maybe 1 in 5000(?) will actually see a wolf.
They all think it’s going to be like Yellowstone with happy, bounding, playing, strings of multi colored wolves loping along in front of them. Never mind what mayhem they cause other game populations.

I’ve helped here in northern MN with problem wolves and I can say from that side of things the ranchers that lose livestock never get fairly compensated in the end. I suggested long ago they just put up towers every so many square miles with speakers and every night at sundown play a few wolf howls for the visitors. It will be the closest to wild wolves the vast majority will ever get.

Good luck in California hopefully your people have more brains in managing wolves than the idiots in Minnesota.

Osky

The wolf managers in Michigan are at the top of the list of not knowing how to manage the wolves....one season 43 wolves were shot and there will be never a season again....
2 years ago I go rid of my home in the UP....got tired of Idiots running the DNR and having to protect my dogs with wolves coming right in my front yard in the middle of the day and not being allowed to anything about it.....
If it wasn't for the Mackinaw straights there would be wolves in the Lower Peninsula then maybe something would be done....have herd some stories of wolves in the Lower but 5 miles of cold water is a long ways to go.....


Wolves have killed a ton of livestock and dogs in northern MN. Some on leads on the homeowners porches. Those reportings disappear faster than the laptop stories in the mainstream media.
I hope that band of water you speak of doesn’t freeze over, the wolves will
take advantage quickly if it does.

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I guess, the ding-bats are just sharing their will on us.


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Originally Posted by Higginez
Why would a rancher post those pics publicly?

Really!!! Talk about making “somebody else’s trouble” your own. The better idea would be to quietly set up with a squaller and bring those coyotes back. A short story: Was in the Boston area a number of times when I was employed by a company headquartered nearby. One weekend a company rep took 3 of us socially deprived that had never seen Boston on tour. Pedestrians in that ant hill of a metropolis would repeatedly start into crosswalks with traffic coming; US. Thought we would or had hit some for sure but they stopped just in time. Driver never flinched.

Her comment, “If you don’t look at them they don’t exist”. Apparently peds there were bipedal Pavlov’s dogs. No eye contact get back on the curb. Eye contact walk. Same here. If those coyotes aren’t recognized they don’t exist. Now, so much for that. They officially exist. Dumb.


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I'm actually kind of surprised there hasn't been much talk of reintroducing the noble savage back into his native homeland. Maybe give it a couple more years.

I feel for all those western ranchers having to pay reparations in blood for the "sins" of their predecessors.

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People watch a National Geographic Documentary and become card carrying ecologists.

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Originally Posted by Farming
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Looks like lower elevation. A clue on whereabouts?
Tehama foothills. Lower elevation. No doubt traveled through higher country to get there.
Thought I recognized that area with the high transmission power lines. Those wolves are following the Lassen deer herd that migrates annually down to the lower elevations of the Paynes Creek area and the Tehama wildlife refuge. Once had a rancher up in the Mt. Lassen area ask me to kill any wolf I see as they were eating his cattle. Way to go California. Destroy the deer herds (and cattle) for environmentalists to feed the wolves.

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Originally Posted by KillerBee
Originally Posted by CCCC
I've heard folks say that it is easier to shoot wolves than it is to shoot coyotes.

Whoever told you that was either pulling your leg or has no idea of what he is talking about lol

KB

WTF wolves are dang smart period ! i live in Northern Minnesota our state has always have had wolves ,for over 100 years here in Minnesota they were trapped ,shot and poisoned all year long for those many years and we never got rid of wolves. now days here in Minnesota these liberal city idiots passed laws to protect wolves so now we got over 3,000 wolves in the northern area in Minnesota with no wolf season only wolf protection.


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Originally Posted by Morewood
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Looks like lower elevation. A clue on whereabouts?
Tehama foothills. Lower elevation. No doubt traveled through higher country to get there.
Thought I recognized that area with the high transmission power lines. Those wolves are following the Lassen deer herd that migrates annually down to the lower elevations of the Paynes Creek area and the Tehama wildlife refuge. Once had a rancher up in the Mt. Lassen area ask me to kill any wolf I see as they were eating his cattle. Way to go California. Destroy the deer herds (and cattle) for environmentalists to feed the wolves.

It isn’t really a California issue is it? They reintroduced them in Yellowstone and they’ve expanded territory just like we thought. Feds wanna tag and collar em all so the black helicopters can keep track of em on private land.


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Originally Posted by Higginez
It isn’t really a California issue is it?
Well, I'm pretty sure that if I get caught harming a protected California wolf the California Fish and Wildlife officers will throw me in a California jail and charge me with killing a California protected species.

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I cannot see any reason to have wolves in California. Maybe there is a need I’m unaware of?
If not good luck to you rural folks out there, there is a price for you and sportsman to pay in having them around or at least there will be.

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Originally Posted by pete53
Originally Posted by KillerBee
Originally Posted by CCCC
I've heard folks say that it is easier to shoot wolves than it is to shoot coyotes.

Whoever told you that was either pulling your leg or has no idea of what he is talking about lol

KB

WTF wolves are dang smart period ! i live in Northern Minnesota our state has always have had wolves ,for over 100 years here in Minnesota they were trapped ,shot and poisoned all year long for those many years and we never got rid of wolves. now days here in Minnesota these liberal city idiots passed laws to protect wolves so now we got over 3,000 wolves in the northern area in Minnesota with no wolf season only wolf protection.

I live south of Highway 10 and we are getting more and more sightings around here. I suppose when they eat everything up north, there will eventually be more and more down this way.


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Most liberal types don’t go hunting, they also don’t want you to hunt or own guns. They are perfectly happy with wolves reducing deer & elk numbers.

In many states any meaningful wolf season has been blocked with hand picked judges. I don’t even care about a legal season anymore.

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Years ago I hunted elk in Oregon and came across few wolf carcasses, asked about it and one of the locals told me the ranchers and local hunters have an agreement to shoot them on site and keep their mouth shut, so the same will happen in CA.

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Originally Posted by coyotewacker
Originally Posted by Osky
People sure get enamored with Apex predators. In a Minnesota the people want a forever ban on harming wolves. These are the people who don’t live up here in wolf country and have no clue how unmanaged wolf populations can damage the ecosystem. Same folks who visit up here and maybe 1 in 5000(?) will actually see a wolf.
They all think it’s going to be like Yellowstone with happy, bounding, playing, strings of multi colored wolves loping along in front of them. Never mind what mayhem they cause other game populations.

I’ve helped here in northern MN with problem wolves and I can say from that side of things the ranchers that lose livestock never get fairly compensated in the end. I suggested long ago they just put up towers every so many square miles with speakers and every night at sundown play a few wolf howls for the visitors. It will be the closest to wild wolves the vast majority will ever get.

Good luck in California hopefully your people have more brains in managing wolves than the idiots in Minnesota.

Osky

The wolf managers in Michigan are at the top of the list of not knowing how to manage the wolves....one season 43 wolves were shot and there will be never a season again....
2 years ago I go rid of my home in the UP....got tired of Idiots running the DNR and having to protect my dogs with wolves coming right in my front yard in the middle of the day and not being allowed to anything about it.....
If it wasn't for the Mackinaw straights there would be wolves in the Lower Peninsula then maybe something would be done....have herd some stories of wolves in the Lower but 5 miles of cold water is a long ways to go.....

Coyotewhacker, Howdy.
The game & fish people are controlled from the top-down. Your words; ''they don't know what they're doing" ?? They know exactly what they're doing ! !
Although a game warden might not agree, 99% of them are not going to give up their job/benefits/pension over the wolf lies. They'll put in their time and retire with a pension from your tax dollars.

I moved to Idaho in the Spring of 2007, went hunting/scouting/camping every weekend, Owyhee Desert, up north of Weiser, etc... I'd see wolf/ML/bear sign and mention it to most people around there and they'd say; OH NO there's no wolves down here in the Valley, they're up in the mountains.
One friend I went predator calling with said there were no wolves in SW Idaho!!! ??? When I sent him a link of a wolf killed south of his home in Pendleton, Oregon and another east of him he decided I might be paying attention. Both wolves from the ''boise pack''.

Two teen girls talking at the end of the reloading supplies aisle , Cabelas , one telling the other that they were watching a wolf pack play in their backyard that morning. She said she called some boy she knew and he informed her that those were coyotes, wolves are only up in the mountains. I eased into the conversation agreeing with her that people can't seem to believe that there are wolves everywhere. She said yeah - they act like you're stupid and don't know a wolf from a coyote. She said she had seen a million coyotes they walk around in her neighborhood.
I saw a red wolf in SW Arkansas many years ago ,, and a mostly black wolf 17miles north of panama city beach, florida !!! < Fact.


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[quote=Morewood
Well, I'm pretty sure that if I get caught harming a protected California wolf the California Fish and Wildlife officers will throw me in a California jail and charge me with killing a California protected species.[/quote]

Yeah, and they'll confiscate your guns/gear, revoke your hunting privileges, and slap you with a hefty fine. You will be a domestic terrorist.

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