Just purchased my first 223 S/A, I am following the other threads for tips, but I need to figure out the best way to trim volume of brass for it. I have a Forster and an RCBS case trimmer already, what are yous guys using?
How often- as in how many firings do you guys find you need to trim brass? I'm only on two or three firings on most of my 223 brass and some of it is still virgin brass, but haven't noticed enough movement yet to trim brass.. hoping my 223 AI won't need it any more often than the parent cases but time will tell...
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At MOST,I trim 223 once during it's life cycle. Bushing dies less an expander ball and Lapooey Virgins for me. Hint.
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I can't remember the last time I trimmed a 223AI case. Hint...............
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Just purchased my first 223 S/A, I am following the other threads for tips, but I need to figure out the best way to trim volume of brass for it. I have a Forster and an RCBS case trimmer already, what are yous guys using?
.223 is one of the few cartridge that the RCBS X dies are still available for. That has been my solution since they came out. I trim once then never again. Some of my brass has been fired 12-15 times in an A/R, some upwards of 20 times in a bolt gun. Nope, not sure where that brass goes with the X die but wherever it goes it is not causing me any problems, the 700 varmint is shooting roughly quarter inch groups with the 60 grain Hornadys and the AR is around half inch with a couple loads, sub MOA with many.
For other cartridges, and with the first trim on .223, I mostly use lee's trimmer chucked in a cordless drill. I've been tempted to upgrade to an RCBS power trimmer but since this is good enough for my volume it's hard to justify taking up bench space.
The biggest thing I'd suggest so far as minimizing trimming is to brush the case necks first to get rid of the powder / primer residue .. I've gotten sloppy at times and it turns brass prep from easy into quite a bit of work.
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Thanks for the replies....Good to know the brass doesn't need excess trimming. I may just continue with my current method (drill on hand trimmer) or......I am curious about the Lee Deluxe power quick trim with the appropriate quick trim die for 223....seems reasonable for price, well under 100 bucks. I only need it for the 223.
Just purchased my first 223 S/A, I am following the other threads for tips, but I need to figure out the best way to trim volume of brass for it. I have a Forster and an RCBS case trimmer already, what are yous guys using?
Lee doesn't make a single fhuqking thing,which isn't a steaming pile of fhuqking schit. Hint.
"Brass" and "volume" don't connect ANY dots. Are you trying to "swoon" floor swepped schit from a "range"? Details fhuqking matter. Hint.
Again,Cerrosfae is your friend,so you KNOW what in the fhuqk you are dealing with. Hint.
Thank me later.
Just saying.
Hint.................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
Just purchased my first 223 S/A, I am following the other threads for tips, but I need to figure out the best way to trim volume of brass for it. I have a Forster and an RCBS case trimmer already, what are yous guys using?
Lee doesn't make a single fhuqking thing,which isn't a steaming pile of fhuqking schit. Hint.
"Brass" and "volume" don't connect ANY dots. Are you trying to "swoon" floor swepped schit from a "range"? Details fhuqking matter. Hint.
Again,Cerrosfae is your friend,so you KNOW what in the fhuqk you are dealing with. Hint.
Thank me later.
Just saying.
Hint.................
Yes range brass, my buddy has a 5 gallon pail of it out of his rifles, that is why the Lee trimmer looked pretty good because then it is all exactly the same, chamfered inside and out. Thanks lol.
I avoid trimming frequency by using a Lee collet neck sizer.
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I partial full length size most brass for a variety of cartridges, but haven't reloaded for the 223 yet, just looking for the most efficient way to trim a 5 gallon pail or more brass.
I have to use the SB dies for my semi autos. I have four AR rifles and three are Varminter and one is the 20” barrel open sights. The other Full Length dies I have don’t seem to cycle like they need to. When I trim, I use the Hornady manual trimmer and do just fine with it. I would love to have something electric, but I’m not there yet. I do see the advantage it has, but I only do about 200 at a time and can keep up easily. I tell myself that I’m better off spending the money on the expensive 69 grain bullets over the equipment. I trim to 1.742 if that means anything. Trimming is a must if you plan on crimping and it helps if all are on the knats ass. It’s such a big sizing of the brass when using the SB dies that I expect to only get about 4 loads per piece before they are used up.
For my S/A or short action 223 rifle, I bump the shoulder and use the equipment and methods I mentioned for the semi auto or S/A rifles. I get an unknown amount of reloads out of those. I’m on 12 loads with some of my brass and showing no caution signs.
If your goal is to trim and prep a chit ton of brass like 5 gallons at a time, I would say you’re better off with something electric.
As Stick noted, the .223 AI is the easy button for saving trim-time.
If you don't want to go that way, an electrically-powered trimmer where you push the case neck/shoulder into the trimmer is fastest. Traditional trimmers where every case has to be inserted into a rim-holder are the slowest--even if electric.
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Forster trimmer, power adapter and an electric drill. It goes pretty fast.
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