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From the UK BBC business news section concerning the major telecoms company BT. AI is expected / hoped to replace 55 thousand jobs and make the company more efficient and profitable..... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-65631168
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Working people better start planning what they are going to be doing to earn a living in the future. If you got even 10 years left to work and think you will be replaced by anything you better have a plan. Young folk better get used to retraining throughout their work lives. The days of doing the same thing all your life are mostly over for the majority of jobs. If it doesn't take a human to preform the task then technology will surely catch up to you and bite you in the arse. They can bitch and fight it all they want but they better have a plan. You will not stop it.
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AI computer trading AI stocks so it can invest more in AI. We know how this ends.
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Just imagine self learning, semi self aware - re Turing test, program that considers itself, like Medieval Popes to be correct / have divine guidance.....
All those computers and databases of the WWW, running in parallel etc. will soon be able to 'think' quicker, make fewer mistakes than humans. Even if we implanted a trap door / Achilles heel in the program algorithm architecture to weaken it and protect humanity, how long before it was smart enough to work it out, identify it and remove it?
I think I am with Elon Musk on this, whoa there boy, lets stop and rethink. There have ben mixed messages from the Microsoft former head of AI research, but all appear to be suggesting caution in proceeding too far, too fast.
This is not Caxton, and others, invention of the manual printing press and look how that spun out and how futile the Pope's attempts to control it were.
Continuous professional development : keeping up to date of developments within ones own filed is expected for practicing engineers and scientists. I agree with the idea of whole life learning.
However, I can see much of the work used to train engineers - gain experience of their field being lost to automated, digital systems which, on aggregate, are cheaper in the middle - longer term. Just tell the machine what code they are designing to , what the structure or element is, provide an initial geometry / size then the program will search out the required information and perform optimizing / sensitivity analyses.
In truth, human history did this already - have an idea, build it, it falls down then rebuild it differently and see what happens.
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There's already been a story out about a guy using AI to work FOUR remote jobs at the same time.
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The new world order is coming, phase 1
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It's not just "working people". At this point, today, AI produces better results in medical diagnostics AND legal reviews than docs and lawyers. Imagine investing 500K and 10 years in an education in medicine at this point in time. Engineers are going to be on the bubble, too. It's not just truck drivers and customer service folks. Won't be long and it'll be like England where docs make considerably less than plumbers..... I imagine farmers are pretty safe, for now, however. No intelligence to replace....
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You can spin up your own AI, without the politically correct filters, on a home system or AWS. Teach it to do anything you want, including world domination. https://erichartford.com/uncensored-models
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AI does not actually exist. A person still has to write the code. Sounds like we'll need more programmers.
Life will be interesting when one has to challenge or question some functions.
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I guess get a job "coding" is now off the table? those poor Keystone pipeline guys can't get a break....
Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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AI does not actually exist. A person still has to write the code. Sounds like we'll need more programmers.
Life will be interesting when one has to challenge or question some functions. Yes and no. AI can write code. Can't use it at work, yet, but I've started playing with it at home, and it can puke out workable code for simple projects very quickly, but as you add complexity you still need a human to sometimes fix and optimize the code.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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I guess get a job "coding" is now off the table? those poor Keystone pipeline guys can't get a break.... I used to work in finance until technology took my job. I'm back in Finance, but for about the last 8 years, on the code writing side of finance. Finance is moving toward those who can automate and innovate, and those who are unemployed. I know what side of that equation I want to be on.
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You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
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AI does not actually exist. A person still has to write the code. Sounds like we'll need more programmers.
Life will be interesting when one has to challenge or question some functions. Yes and no. AI can write code. Can't use it at work, yet, but I've started playing with it at home, and it can puke out workable code for simple projects very quickly, but as you add complexity you still need a human to sometimes fix and optimize the code. Today.... tomorrow, it will make the majority of the produce nothing workers obsolete..... A.I. is evolving at light speed
Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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it can puke out workable code for simple projects very quickly, but as you add complexity you still need a human to sometimes fix and optimize the code. So it can replace outsourced coders? India should worry.
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AI does not actually exist. A person still has to write the code. Sounds like we'll need more programmers.
Life will be interesting when one has to challenge or question some functions. Yes and no. AI can write code. Can't use it at work, yet, but I've started playing with it at home, and it can puke out workable code for simple projects very quickly, but as you add complexity you still need a human to sometimes fix and optimize the code. Yep. I believe that it's already capable of writing simple HW drivers given a spec that's written well (and anyone in the industry knows how often a spec is well written if it exists at all).
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I guess get a job "coding" is now off the table? those poor Keystone pipeline guys can't get a break.... I used to work in finance until technology took my job. I'm back in Finance, but for about the last 8 years, on the code writing side of finance. Finance if moving toward those who can automate and innovate, and those who are unemployed. I know what side of that equation I want to be on. My son in law is a codewriter extraordinaire.... has the success & $ to prove it.... he uses A.I. many times a day for different task... he no longer has to hire a guy in India to do the menial stuff for him anymore
Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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AI needs to replace these friggen idiots that get elected to " run this country"
Rehab is for quitters! THEY are all guilty! Name one honest politician! DEFINE Treason. God bless the USA Democrats ARE the plague! RINO'S need to be hunted! Who's a bigger puzzy than Paul Ryan? Mike Pence? John Kerry ? REELECT NOBODY! Except Trump
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I guess get a job "coding" is now off the table? those poor Keystone pipeline guys can't get a break.... I used to work in finance until technology took my job. I'm back in Finance, but for about the last 8 years, on the code writing side of finance. Finance if moving toward those who can automate and innovate, and those who are unemployed. I know what side of that equation I want to be on. My son in law is a codewriter extraordinaire.... has the success & $ to prove it.... he uses A.I. many times a day for different task... he no longer has to hire a guy in India to do the menial stuff for him anymore My kid's an IT nazi. He's not a great coder, but uses AI to write python scripts to do some of the mundane stuff, too. If I hadn't retired from SW recently I would probably had leveraged AI to write stuff, too.
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There's already been a story out about a guy using AI to work FOUR remote jobs at the same time. You gotta love an entrepreneur! Somebody will get kissed about it, but if the jobs are getting done satisfactorily, I don’t see a problem.
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There's already been a story out about a guy using AI to work FOUR remote jobs at the same time. You gotta love an entrepreneur! Somebody will get kissed about it, but if the jobs are getting done satisfactorily, I don’t see a problem. True... but when the person who writes his paycheck finds out... he will simply eliminate the employee and utilize A.I. himself....
Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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