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This entire discussion reminds me of troubles we had in the 70s with numerous trespassing pheasant hunters. Before Id put some teeth into trespass law and penalties.
Many were totally indignant that we could own all that ground and lock them out of it. Many stated so in so many words.
I once asked a trespassing pheasant hunter for his address: He told the street in Boise, (all the asshwholes were from Ada County)
I asked if they had a large lawn and a pool at the house.
"Why, what does that matter?"
"I am looking for a place to hold a family reunion and picnic. A pool would be nice for the kiddies"
He stuttered and stammered and went on for a bit about "But, that's different."
"Really, how so?"
If you want to trample over people's land, pay for it.
Hell, if you want onto that land locked .gov property so badly, hire a helicopter to fly you in. 1) No one set foot on private property. 2) The 2 tracts that had feet on them were not privately owned. 3) Eshelman doesn't want flights in to the public owned land either. https://www.gillettenewsrecord.com/news/wyoming/article_4e27c742-f01a-582f-9412-58562395ebad.html
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Can you imagine if the government hadn't been stupid. Typically attracts the laziest and stupidest segment of the population ,but not always obviously. I’m not referring to LEO/ military at all . The politicians that created the checker board weren't lazy or stupid, just corrupt. Like this guy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Holtzclaw
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2) The 2 tracts that had feet on them were not privately owned.
3) Eshelman doesn't want flights in to the public owned land either. The discussion here is of taking private lands (at public expense) to give a very few access through those private lands. What in the Holy Hell is wrong with flying into the public lands? Except that the hunter is on the hook for the cost of the flight time, rather than foisting the cost onto the taxpayer? What Eshelman wants is of no consequence!
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Can you imagine if the government hadn't been stupid. Typically attracts the laziest and stupidest segment of the population ,but not always obviously. I’m not referring to LEO/ military at all . The politicians that created the checker board weren't lazy or stupid, just corrupt. Like this guy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_HoltzclawSo your big breakthrough is that politicians are corrupt?
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2) The 2 tracts that had feet on them were not privately owned.
3) Eshelman doesn't want flights in to the public owned land either. The discussion here is of taking private lands (at public expense) to give a very few access through those private lands. What in the Holy Hell is wrong with flying into the public lands? Except that the hunter is on the hook for the cost of the flight time, rather than foisting the cost onto the taxpayer? What Eshelman wants is of no consequence! The subject of the thread is referring to the legal proceedings about corner crossing from one existing tract of public land to another existing tract of public land. No trespassing involved at all so it isn't clear why you would bring up what you described as trespassing pheasant hunters. Eshelman and a large number of people supporting him having control of property he does not own seem to think what he wants does matter.
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I was just looking at public land in WY for an upcoming trip. I see a lot of the ‘checkerboard’ pattern mentioned above.
With OnX Hunt & a gps position one knows exactly where they are. I get the no vehicle thing & all that, without permission.
Yes I can see ranches & owners locking up public land behind them. I think the ruling is great.
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I am happy that it passed . It makes no sense to prohibit millions of acres of public land for private land owners. Also, I am surprised it is not legal to step over the corner. I am also surprised that if a land owner tried to stop a guy from corner crossing, the land owner likely would have to prove exactly where his corner is... In Wis. government corners are marked , even way back in the woods. However, some are so old they are believed to not be very accurate. I know of one that had a copper cap that is dated Dec. 6, 1941. After that day the copper caps stopped , likely from what happened the next day. Anyway, it would cost a fortune to prove exactly where the corners are, or does the government have steel corner pipes to show the exact corner? Also , I am sure some jack a$$ land owner will do all they can do to scare hunters away.. You know, flat tires, swearing, and likely follow them on to the public land in a form of hunter harassment. It's coming , a gun fight likely too. These ranchers see it as their land. I'm sure most are ok, but there will be a few.
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It’s called a survey and doesn’t cost a fortune to get corners marked.
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Can you imagine if the government hadn't been stupid. Typically attracts the laziest and stupidest segment of the population ,but not always obviously. I’m not referring to LEO/ military at all . The politicians that created the checker board weren't lazy or stupid, just corrupt. Like this guy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_HoltzclawSo your big breakthrough is that politicians are corrupt? You didn't mention corruption as the cause for the checkerboard when the politicians who did it knew exactly what they were doing. You also tried claiming all mil/le were somehow different and Officer Daniel The Rapist Holtzclaw shows that to not have a basis in fact.
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It’s called a survey and doesn’t cost a fortune to get corners marked. The subject corner has been marked since 1878. https://amerisurv.com/2023/02/09/corner-crossing/
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It’s called a survey and doesn’t cost a fortune to get corners marked. I know it's called a survey , and it will cost plenty to get dozens marked . By the way, surveys are not exactly cheap.
But the fruits of the spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness,faithfulness, Gentleness and self control. Against such things there is no law. Galations 5: 22&23
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It’s called a survey and doesn’t cost a fortune to get corners marked. I know it's called a survey , and it will cost plenty to get dozens marked . By the way, surveys are not exactly cheap. So nothing exists between not exactly cheap and a fortune? Got it.
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It’s called a survey and doesn’t cost a fortune to get corners marked. I know it's called a survey , and it will cost plenty to get dozens marked . By the way, surveys are not exactly cheap. So nothing exists between not exactly cheap and a fortune? Got it. Marked since 1878. https://amerisurv.com/2023/02/09/corner-crossing/
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