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Are there any quantitative tests or studies comparing rimfire pistols against their contemporaries side by side? Colt, High Standard, S&W, Browning, and other post WW2 semi-automatics.

Colt Woodsman, SW 41, High Standard Victor, Browning Medalist, etc...


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Aether tech: I am not aware of any such tests/studies.
Would be interesting to see the results if any have been conducted - and I am assuming your are referring to/inquiring about inherent accuracy?.
I own all of the above (with the exception now of the Browning Medalist which I sold some time back) and as an avid (but not an expert any longer) pistol shooter "I" could not tell the difference, I am sure, in their inherent accuracy.
I do have a bunch of heavy barrel Browning BuckMark pistols and a Browning Nomad that shoot every bit as accurately as "I" need.
I say - remember, every gun (pistol/Rifle) is an individual and as such they may vary (and often do) in obtainable accuracy from gun to gun within that brand/model.
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Several years ago I accuracy tested some target pistols I had. Finding the ammo they liked seemed to be more important than the pistol. They all seemed to be able to group under 1.5" @ 50 yards with the right ammo of the 4 different rounds I had to test with. Some of them did 1/2 of that at 50. A surprise to me was how well the TX made High Standards shot.

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Originally Posted by saleen322
Several years ago I accuracy tested some target pistols I had. Finding the ammo they liked seemed to be more important than the pistol. They all seemed to be able to group under 1.5" @ 50 yards with the right ammo of the 4 different rounds I had to test with. Some of them did 1/2 of that at 50. A surprise to me was how well the TX made High Standards shot.

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hmm, ok. I've been wanting a Victor - but specificalyl, do you remember which ones grouped the best (the 0.75"'ers?)


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My local group does a pistol match at 50' standing, open sight, 2 hand hold, 10 shots in 20 secs on B29 targets. My High Standard 106 Military and my Volquartsen are interchangeable score wise. There are 3 High Standards in our group and none give up any points to the Volquartsen, the S&W 41's, the S&W Victory PC and the Target Buckmark pistols in our group.


If they were shot from a bench at greater distance I think they would score just as well.


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Originally Posted by aether_tech
Originally Posted by saleen322
Several years ago I accuracy tested some target pistols I had. Finding the ammo they liked seemed to be more important than the pistol. They all seemed to be able to group under 1.5" @ 50 yards with the right ammo of the 4 different rounds I had to test with. Some of them did 1/2 of that at 50. A surprise to me was how well the TX made High Standards shot.

hmm, ok. I've been wanting a Victor - but specificalyl, do you remember which ones grouped the best (the 0.75"'ers?)

The TX Victor was one of the best at 0.751" with SK Standard Plus @ 50 yards. The only High Standard that did better was a Trophy that shot 0.66".

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Originally Posted by saleen322
Several years ago I accuracy tested some target pistols I had. Finding the ammo they liked seemed to be more important than the pistol. They all seemed to be able to group under 1.5" @ 50 yards with the right ammo of the 4 different rounds I had to test with. Some of them did 1/2 of that at 50. A surprise to me was how well the TX made High Standards shot.

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Wow, wonderful group of very fine target pistols. Any of them would shoot better than the average pistol shooter could hold. Would like to own a couple of them. 👍👍

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Ransom rest and an assortment of ammo.
Lot variance, fouling, cleaning interval.....lot to do for such a test.

And in the end even the best rig and ammo may not fit the shooter.

I dislike Model 41s but like a Woodsman... only for field use. Hate the bridged rear sights on some High Standards. My choice was a 1911 w Kart slide. It worked well for me as a field gun when i had good eyes LOL

Too big and heavy for a holster, was not a side arm, but a primary for small game.

It went bye bye, now I run a Buckmark w an optic. Not as fancy or expensive but it shoots good.

Only other rig I might get, Hammerli Exesse.

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I shot a model 41 and a Victor a few times in local matches. I bought a 41 but only because I found a used one cheap. I always liked the Victor better. For me the sights were more crisp and precise. That was with very young eyes though. I doubt it would matter now.

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Well, it looks like the Victor, if i can find one at a good price.

Are there any pistols that ever mounted, or could mount, rifle style aperture sights? Traditional pistol/or rifle irons with my astigmatism is the worst shooting experience. Aperture is ok for me(or a scope)


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Originally Posted by aether_tech
Well, it looks like the Victor, if i can find one at a good price.

Are there any pistols that ever mounted, or could mount, rifle style aperture sights? Traditional pistol/or rifle irons with my astigmatism is the worst shooting experience. Aperture is ok for me(or a scope)

I have doubts that an aperture would work well with a pistol. Removing the cheek as an anchor point has me concerned.

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Ransom rest and an assortment of ammo.
Lot variance, fouling, cleaning interval.....lot to do for such a test.

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My 41 on average will shoot the best of all my others, but I've been carrying my Buck Mark more lately.

But nothing can hold a candle to my 8 3/8" K22 Model 17 out at 50. It's not just sight radius either, I don't think.


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The 1911-22 conversions are very accurate from nelson or marvel and can be bought with fiber optic front sight and adjustable rear with rail for a red dot mount. The barrels are very accurate. With my eyes these days--I am 67 a red dot is almost a must. Fiber optic front sight helps a lot also. The uppers are easy to switch out. You can also buy a LSP BARREL AND RAIL from Brownells for your hi standard and mount a red dot on it.


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