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Originally Posted by RIO7
Son of the Gael, would you care to clarify your statement,and prove me wrong. Rio7

I suspect he is taking about Jim Harmer, the guy in the video.


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Perhaps I misunderstood , if so? if so my Apology's . Rio7

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Originally Posted by dennisinaz
Originally Posted by RIO7
Son of the Gael, would you care to clarify your statement,and prove me wrong. Rio7

I suspect he is taking about Jim Harmer, the guy in the video.

Yes, I was referring to the guy in the video, no disrespect to you, Rio. Should have been more clear, my apologies.


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Son of Gael, No Sweat, Thanks Rio7

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Hunted with a guy who preached .22-250 Rem for deer!
Yep! Deer didn't run, not very far anyway! ...but about the only thing left fit to eat was the hindquarters!
The whole front half of the deer was bloodshot!

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I built a .257STW that launches a 75 bullet at 4K ps... Also have a .17 Rem that spits out a 25 gr. varmint bullet at the same speed... Fun stuff! laugh


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I hunted exclusively with a 22-250 for a number of years because my late uncle used it to exclusion of other cartridges. Worked pretty well on deer as long as the range wasn't too bad. Then i had a coues whitetail not fire with a pretty decent hit. Luckily i made an amazing hail Mary follow-up and broke his back.

I rebarreled that Ruger shortly thereafter to 7mm-08 and never looked back.

I have an 8 twist now that i can shoot better bullets in but i doubt i will ever kill another deer with a 22.

I have pushed 55 grain bullets to 4100 out of my 6x47 L and 6 SLR. Ballistic tips are the only ones that reliably make it to the target.

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In my younger years, I associated speed with lethality.
I found some .277 Sierra 90 gr HP bullets. My loading manual suggested IMR 3030 for a muzzle velocity of 3750fps!
I was "smitten"! LOL!
Loaded up 20 to try out, but never got the opportunity!
Fast forward to deer season. I'm out of 130 grain ammo for my .270, so sighted it in with the 90 grain HP's!
Clover leaf accurate!

Opening morning:

A small but legal buck steps out over 100 yards away. My scope is dialed up on 9×.
When the rifle fired, it took a few seconds for my brain to comprehend what my eyes had just seen!
Before the recoil had the opportunity to destroy my sight picture, I witnessed the deer's feet flip over in the scope! 🤯!

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Originally Posted by Son_of_the_Gael
What a maroon.
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You boys nailed it.

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There's no fly's on the 22-250, I used mine for years on Coyotes, Bobcat, Pigs and Deer, even Killed a couple of Spike Elk with mine, But my .243s would do everything my 22-250s would do and more, so I discarded the 22-250s and added a .243 1x7.5 twist A.I. and a 6 CM 1x8 twist, and I'm not looking back YMMV Rio7

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How about 5.000?


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I've never tried, or cared to try flinging a bullet that fast. Last time I was in my cousin's 450 acre prairie dog town I used a 35 whelen and 200gr round nose bullets. I could toss dogs way out there. Have a 223 Remington, but don't hot rod it. Moderate speeds have always worked well for me.

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Had a rifle builder that I worked for one summer that got some of the Remington sabots. His bright idea was to run 40gr 224s over a stiff load in a 300 Roy. I forget what chrono said whenever it didn’t error out, but seems mid or more 4Ks. 4600? Couldn’t group them inside a basketball, so he gave up playing. They were impressive whenever we could hit a full coke can, though. This was early 90s. I was 21 and thought it made no sense even that young and dumb.

Edit: he could have been getting over 5k …..I just can’t recall, other than it was pretty unheard of afaik.

Again, I don’t try to shoot varmints with tiny bores at 300+, so maybe that’s the niche?

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You guys can guess if you want.
After watching the idiot youtube..No it was not a sabot of any kind
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Originally Posted by Reloder28
My 1977 model 77 Ruger accounted for a few Whitetails running 55's at 4000 fps. Did not have to trail a single one.


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Amazingly STUPID Fhuqk................


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I've never heard of anyone actually achieving 5000 fps.


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One that really cracks me up is Hornady claiming their 204 Ruger ammo with 32gr VMax bullets shoots 4225fps smile

Have shot this ammo through my Oehler 35p with 6 different rifles, with a 22" barrel you will NEVER see 4000fps (unless you have a Shooters Chrony), with a 26" barrel you might get in the low 4000's.........but Hornady's claim is a flat out lie !!!!!!!!!

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I used to use a .220 Swift for deer hunting here in Kodiak. But carrying out a deer and running into a bear makes the .220 seem very small. It did work fine on deer though.

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Originally Posted by boatanchor
One that really cracks me up is Hornady claiming their 204 Ruger ammo with 32gr VMax bullets shoots 4225fps smile

Have shot this ammo through my Oehler 35p with 6 different rifles, with a 22" barrel you will NEVER see 4000fps (unless you have a Shooters Chrony), with a 26" barrel you might get in the low 4000's.........but Hornady's claim is a flat out lie !!!!!!!!!
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