Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire We are out of ammo.

No worries.

They'll just offer all manufacturers of ammo a lucrative govt contract, and they'll stop making and selling ammo meant for the US public consumption.

2 birds with one stone.

I have a good supply.

The United Nations Convention of Cluster Munitions, which was adopted in 2008 and went into force in 2010, “prohibits all use, production, transfer and stockpiling of cluster munitions.” Nearly 125 nations have ratified and signed onto the convention.


Are cluster bombs allowed in war?
As of this year, 111 countries have signed and ratified the Convention on Cluster Munitions, which bans the use, production and stockpiling of cluster munitions. Russia, the US and Ukraine have not signed the convention.


Shortly after the Russian invasion of Ukraine, when reports circulated regarding the Russian use of cluster bombs, a reporter asked then–White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki about the Biden administration’s response to an action that was “potentially a war crime.”

“We have seen the reports,” replied Psaki on February 28, 2022. “If that were true, it would potentially be a war crime.”

The press secretary’s words have come back to haunt the Biden administration, which is now in the process of transferring stocks of this internationally banned weaponry to the Ukrainian government.

The United Nations Convention of Cluster Munitions, which was adopted in 2008 and went into force in 2010, “prohibits all use, production, transfer and stockpiling of cluster munitions.” Nearly 125 nations have ratified and signed onto the convention. Russia and the United States are not among them, but that does not change the reality that cluster bombs have long been associated with war crimes.

“Cluster munitions pose an immediate threat to civilians during conflict by randomly scattering submunitions or bomblets over a wide area. They continue to pose a threat post-conflict by leaving remnants, including submunitions that fail to explode upon impact becoming de facto landmines,” explains Human Rights Watch. Last August, the organization highlighted concerns about Russia’s use of “explosive weapons with wide area effects and widely banned cluster munitions in apparent violation of international humanitarian law, or the laws of war.”

Yet, last week, President Joe Biden approved the shipment of cluster bombs to Ukraine. Biden told CNN it was a “difficult decision” to provide Ukraine with the munitions, but said he had concluded, “They either have the weapons to stop the Russians…or they don’t. And I think they needed them.”

Campaigners for a ban on the munitions weren’t about to accept the president’s decision to facilitate the transfer of weaponry that once provoked a “potentially a war crime” reference from his former press secretary.

Although the United States did not sign the convention, it stopped producing cluster munitions in 2008 and has produced only unitary warheads since then. It has gradually converted inventories to convention-compliant configurations.

I used to work for a place that built the 155's - we used TNT from the 1940s. Surplus stuff that has been setting around for years. Got to watch out for those crystals that have grown on it - very volatile.

Built 60mm mortars too. I got to see them produced and packed. Then, in my job after that I unpacked them and dropped them in a tube. I always wondered if they were the same ones I'd seen produced.

Oh well, my personal stocks are ok. At some point those are the only ones that'll matter.

My press doesn't do 155's.

Bb