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Today I am heading out to shoot my recently acquired 6.5xx55, backwards I know. You got a pair of real classics. I see it didn’t take you long to remove the stock on the latest one and the maker stamp it revealed. What a find x2. Let us know how they shoot. My guess, about as good as they look. DF
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Obey lawful commands. Video interactions. Hold bad cops accountable. Problem solved.
~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
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I walked up to the finish line on a purchase of a bolt gun in 7mm-08, but asked if they also had the same model in 308 Win. I bought the 308. Don't regret a thing. That 308 win of mine bang flopped alot of deer.
I sighted in a friend and neighbors 7mm-08 rifle he won in a raffle once and he bang flopped a nice buck with it. Nothing wrong with a 7mm-08.
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A survey here in the panhandle I see plenty of factory ammunition for 7mm-08. I have always wanted to like the 7mm-08 more than I actually do. I bought a Kimber Montana in 7mm-08 for my brother but he has never seen it in person, I just tell him when I am hunting with his rifle.
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7-08 ammo on the shelves at least 3 stores here, quite a bit !
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I have a .308 and a 6.5 Creedmoor. No need for a 7-08. I learned a long time ago to stick with popular cartridges that are easy to find ammo/components for rather than create headaches and extra expense for myself for no practical benefit. Consequently, you won't find any oddballs or also rans in my safe. There is always a popular cartridge that will cover the same ground.
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I’ll just stick with my 7x57 if you don’t mind.
Life Member NRA, RMEF, American Legion, MAGA. Not necessarily in that order.
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If you're seeing any difference in performance between 308 and 7-08 it is between your ears. You can make an argument that the 7-08 is better on paper. But talk about splitting hairs. With the best loads 7-08 drops 1" less at 500 yards and hits with about 35 ft lbs more energy. The 7-08 has about 1 ft lb less recoil.
I don't dislike 7-08. It certainly doesn't give up anything to 308 and is suitable for at least 95% of the hunting anywhere on the globe. I think of it as a modern 7X57.
You have to understand that hunters are no longer driving what sells. The vast majority of rifle buyers now are SHOOTERS who go through way more ammo in a year than typical hunters from the past. For those guys the reduced recoil, and costs of handloading 6.5 CM is far more important than the added power of classics like 30-06 or 270. A 7-08 will squirt a .796 BC 180 at 2600fps. Drop is Physics and wind is Vudoo…while “energy” is for blue haired Cat Ladies. Hint. Bless your heart………….
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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A 7-08 will squirt a .796 BC 180 at 2600fps. Drop is Physics and wind is Vudoo…while “energy” is for blue haired Cat Ladies. Hint.
Bless your heart…………. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/M55S1hUl.jpg)
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I have a .308 and a 6.5 Creedmoor. No need for a 7-08. I learned a long time ago to stick with popular cartridges that are easy to find ammo/components for rather than create headaches and extra expense for myself for no practical benefit. Consequently, you won't find any oddballs or also rans in my safe. There is always a popular cartridge that will cover the same ground. As far as components, what’s hard to find with the 7/08?
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SuperKchunt,
What were the fhuqking “odds”,that you needed to steal your avatar and your reply pics. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!………..
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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A funny conversation.
I sold my 7 Rem Mags. Sold the .280AI.
Currently have 2 7x57 single shots (Dakota Model 10 and Ruger No. 1), two 7mm-08s (Ruger American and Ultra Light Arms), and one .284 Winchester (Alpha Arms Grand Slam) plus another .284 Win being built.
Yes, all those rifles push 7mm bullets at about the same speed.
No, it makes no sense.
Yes, I’d hunt any NA game animal short of brown/grizzly with them.
Good bullet. Right place. Get close.
Have fun.
Use what you like.
I love having all these options.
Likes lefty rifles. Guntalk in web searches.
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If you're seeing any difference in performance between 308 and 7-08 it is between your ears. You can make an argument that the 7-08 is better on paper. But talk about splitting hairs. With the best loads 7-08 drops 1" less at 500 yards and hits with about 35 ft lbs more energy. The 7-08 has about 1 ft lb less recoil.
I don't dislike 7-08. It certainly doesn't give up anything to 308 and is suitable for at least 95% of the hunting anywhere on the globe. I think of it as a modern 7X57.
You have to understand that hunters are no longer driving what sells. The vast majority of rifle buyers now are SHOOTERS who go through way more ammo in a year than typical hunters from the past. For those guys the reduced recoil, and costs of handloading 6.5 CM is far more important than the added power of classics like 30-06 or 270. A 7-08 will squirt a .796 BC 180 at 2600fps. Drop is Physics and wind is Vudoo…while “energy” is for blue haired Cat Ladies. Hint. Bless your heart…………. You don't shoot anything that is alive over 100 yards, Little Liar Larry. And for that, a .308 with a 180 at 2700 fps out of a short action with a 3" box and a 22" barrel will be superior.
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SniffleKchunt,
Fortunately for you,Imagination and Pretend are free, so even you can “afford” to “contribute”…you “lucky” kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?
Pardon my simply shooting it all and then some,as you Pretend aloud. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!…………
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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My dad bought his first 7mm-08 in a Model 7 sometime around the late 80's/early 90's, which started my interest in the cartridge. I bought my first in a 700 Titanium around '00, and have had two more built (one on a trued 700 with a 22" Bartlein and a another on a Defiance action with a 26" Bartlein). I still see ammo for sale pretty regularly, and never pass up a chance to pick up brass when I see it decently priced. I don't hunt with the Ti as much as I used to, I'm mainly shooting the other two rifles with anything from 130gr Sierra MK's to 175gr Nosler BTHP's.
I've always liked the 7mm bullet diameter, and it seems like the bullet choices keep getting better each year.
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Today I am heading out to shoot my recently acquired 6.5xx55, backwards I know. You got a pair of real classics. I see it didn’t take you long to remove the stock on the latest one and the maker stamp it revealed. What a find x2. Let us know how they shoot. My guess, about as good as they look. DF Should now something tomorrow with cheap S&B at this point.
Conduct is the best proof of character.
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Quit reading those magazines and just use what works
For me there has been really nothing offered by a mfg in 30 years that has the slightest appeal
Unless your into plastic
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April of '22 I got a BLR chambered in 7mm08 and thought I had the almost perfect combo of a 7x57 in a lever action rifle. I didn't try to buy ammo because I roll my own. I couldn't find a handload that was better than mediocre and downright sucked compared to my 7x57 so, I decided to go to town and buy some ready rolls to see if they would do better. None at Wally World, Academy, or Ammo shops, none, nodda, zip. I worked with it for a couple of more months and then sold it. Almost certainly not the fault of the cartridge. Absolutely not the fault of the cartridge! I was commenting on the lack of factory ammo. The 7mm08 is just the short cousin of my favorite, the 7mm Mauser and I'm on the prowl for another but, not a BLR.
Shew me thy ways, O LORD: teach me thy paths.
"there are few better cartridges on Earth than the 7 x 57mm Mauser"
"the .30 Springfield is light, accurate, penetrating, and has surprising stopping power"
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If you're seeing any difference in performance between 308 and 7-08 it is between your ears. You can make an argument that the 7-08 is better on paper. But talk about splitting hairs. With the best loads 7-08 drops 1" less at 500 yards and hits with about 35 ft lbs more energy. The 7-08 has about 1 ft lb less recoil.
I don't dislike 7-08. It certainly doesn't give up anything to 308 and is suitable for at least 95% of the hunting anywhere on the globe. I think of it as a modern 7X57.
You have to understand that hunters are no longer driving what sells. The vast majority of rifle buyers now are SHOOTERS who go through way more ammo in a year than typical hunters from the past. For those guys the reduced recoil, and costs of handloading 6.5 CM is far more important than the added power of classics like 30-06 or 270. A 7-08 will squirt a .796 BC 180 at 2600fps. Drop is Physics and wind is Vudoo…while “energy” is for blue haired Cat Ladies. Hint. Bless your heart…………. Hard to argue with FACTS and facts are facts! My problem is both of mine suffer mag constraints.
Faith and love of others knows no mileage nor bounds. That's simply the way it is.
dogzapper
After the game is over, the king and the pawn go into the same box.
Italian Proverb
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Maybe they just need to change the name from 7-08 to 7 creedmore to being attention to it .
Sadly, You know it’s true!
All of them do something better than the 30-06, but none of them do everything as well.
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