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Never had any problems with Warne…
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Warne rings are rugged, reliable and -- installed properly -- never, ever leave a mark on a scope. They are all I have used for many years now, and I won't put a nice scope in anything else. The scopes below had been in and out of Warne rings numerous times, but the tubes could have passed for brand new.
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... have guns with scopes mounted with Burris, EGW, Leupold and Warne rings ... all work good ... on the other hand my "blue" BLR '81 takedown in 308 Win uses a cheap Chinese ring set from Amazon that is rock solid though a little on the bulky side and mounts the scope at exactly the right height for quick sight picture acquisition and good cheek weld ... it ain't broke & I'm not fixing it
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I've got pic rails on most of my rifles. I've tested the Burris Signature Zee rings on a few heavy recoiling rifles. While the rings don't "look" particularly stout, they hold quite well and I've never experienced any problems with them. IME, rings with inserts hold well, don't mar tubes, never bind scope tubes, and allow better scope alignment if needed.
The Burris tactical rings, with inserts, are very robust but wouldn't look very good on my svelte hunting rifles.
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Can’t argue with any of that, but OTOH, so far the same applies to the Warne rings, except the adjustability, and they’re U.S. made. The powder coat finish is kind to scopes too, assuming you’ve checked for alignment of course. The Mountain Techs are aluminum, with coated SS hardware.
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I'm a fan of the Burris signature rings, plenty strong never leave ring marks on your scope and you can add elevation or windage with the inserts The latter feature is great when the receiver screw holes aren’t perfectly aligned with the bore axis and as a Loony, you want the reticle at optical center of the scope. They don’t mar and they really grip the scope tube. And they don’t look half bad. DF
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Almost all my scopes are mounted on Signature Zee rings.
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… the 1” QD Warne rings I used had a non-captive white metal part in the base of each ring that would fall out and get lost when you dismounted the scope from the rifle
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Fuuck China Burris. Lots of non-com ring options. But, yes, the Signature inserts are cool..... To each his own.
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What says the fire?? This will be a 30mm tube scope and don't care about weight. TIA Warne Maxima
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If you want a really robust ring the Arken Halo rings are really nice but not pretty. However, you need the Burris Extreme Tactical bases for these rings as the cross bolt won't fit a standard picatinny rail. They are even marked on the base mounting screw location and the scope cap mounting screws with the screw torque rating and they have double screws on the scope caps.
If you want decent looking and you're looking for a gloss ring I haven't found anything else on the market lately that has as nice of a finish as the Burris. Not sure why everyone has given up on providing a decent gloss scope ring these days, but they are just about impossible to find. I've been buying the Burris on ebay brand new for around $22 or so and haven't been disappointed yet. Most of them are unmarked but they have worked perfectly for me and alignment of them is very good as long as my bases are aligned properly.
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I'm a fan of the Burris signature rings, plenty strong never leave ring marks on your scope and you can add elevation or windage with the inserts This I only buy two ring mounts for the last several years. Talley LW where applicable. Burris Signature in Burris Ex Tactical bases where Talleys are not applicable. Tallys are clearly not applicable here.
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I like the Burris inserts, but the Zee ring split clamping design is just plain stupid. Explain that??? The ring has an angled cut that allows it to be squeezed against the base when the crossbolt is tightened actually bending it a bit. Often it needs to be pried open a bit to remove the ring. Every other maker, even Burris on other rings, uses a moving clamp that gets pulled straight across as it’s tightened. At the end of that cut, the remaining steel is pretty thin. I still have some because I like the inserts, but it’s an odd idea IMO. There are advantages. No flimsy clamp piece to deform and lose tension as on so many Weaver style rings, or get lost. No nuts to get lost. On the other hand, the rings do not lift straight up and off of the bases. They must be slid forward or back until they clear the base. On most of my rifles, I can do that without removing the scope from the rings.
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If you want a really robust ring the Arken Halo rings are really nice but not pretty. However, you need the Burris Extreme Tactical bases for these rings as the cross bolt won't fit a standard picatinny rail. Did you mean they won't fit a Weaver-style rail?
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I like the Burris inserts, but the Zee ring split clamping design is just plain stupid. Explain that??? The ring has an angled cut that allows it to be squeezed against the base when the crossbolt is tightened actually bending it a bit. Often it needs to be pried open a bit to remove the ring. Every other maker, even Burris on other rings, uses a moving clamp that gets pulled straight across as it’s tightened. At the end of that cut, the remaining steel is pretty thin. I still have some because I like the inserts, but it’s an odd idea IMO. Love it how a campfire blowhard finds the benchrest community "stupid and odd" Most benchrest rifles use a "Davidson" style base instead of a weaver or picatinny style base, many have used a similar design to the Burris for decades with great success
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The Davidson type rings are split in the middle so the squeeze is symmetrical. They also don't have a thin spot at the end of the split either. The design is similar to the Burris only in a rather broad sense.
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I have the Vortex Pro Series rings on a few rifles and have no complaints. They’re less expensive, lighter and nicer looking (to me at least) than their precision matched rings (aka Seekins) AND they’re Made in the USA. I don’t know who makes them for Vortex but I suspect it is Warne? Pretty sure they’re the only Vortex products I own. I prefer the Warne Mountain Tech overall but these save a few bucks. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1020789393?pid=748317
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I have the Vortex Pro Series rings on a few rifles and have no complaints. They’re less expensive, lighter and nicer looking (to me at least) than their precision matched rings (aka Seekins) AND they’re Made in the USA. I don’t know who makes them, but for Vortex but I suspect it is Warne? Pretty sure they’re the only Vortex products I own. I prefer the Warne Mountain Tech overall but these save a few bucks. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1020789393?pid=748317Those are a dead ringer for the Arken rings mentioned previously, which are very good. Obviously whoever makes those for Vortex makes them for Arken as well.
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If you want a really robust ring the Arken Halo rings are really nice but not pretty. However, you need the Burris Extreme Tactical bases for these rings as the cross bolt won't fit a standard picatinny rail. Did you mean they won't fit a Weaver-style rail? The ones I got wouldn't fit a standard Weaver style base or rail. The Burris Extreme Tactical bases seem to have a slightly wider slot in them to accommodate the tactical style rings. They are extremely stout..
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