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Thanks for all the responses. What has been your experiences with tract?

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What do you think the majority of your shooting will be like?

If you're looking at hitting very precise points a bit closer (however you define closer) then the 3-9 EFR is probably your best bet, both for the extra 2x of magnification and the ability to completely eliminate parallax.

If you want to stretch things out beyond 100 yards then the 2-7 with the MOA reticle is better. The hash marks are 1 MOA apart which makes the view a bit crowded but once you know your bullet drops you can make first shot hits on reasonably sized targets out to 200 yards or more.

I have the VX-Freedom 3-9X40 with the MOA reticle and it works very well on a Savage Mark II. Obviously the objective bell is 7mm larger than the other two but the weights on all three of them vary no more than one ounce, from 11.1 on the 2-7 to a whopping 12.2 on the 3-9x40. wink

IMO Leupold missed it by that much, they should put an AO on their 3-9x40 rimfire model or go ahead and put the MOA reticle into their 3-9x33, then you'd have the best of both.

Finally, if the 60 yard parallax setting of the 2-7 bugs you that can be changed relatively easily.

Change a non-AO scope yourself

Adjusting parallax can be done at home on a lot of scopes


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Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho
What do you think the majority of your shooting will be like?

If you're looking at hitting very precise points a bit closer (however you define closer) then the 3-9 EFR is probably your best bet, both for the extra 2x of magnification and the ability to completely eliminate parallax.

If you want to stretch things out beyond 100 yards then the 2-7 with the MOA reticle is better. The hash marks are 1 MOA apart which makes the view a bit crowded but once you know your bullet drops you can make first shot hits on reasonably sized targets out to 200 yards or more.

I have the VX-Freedom 3-9X40 with the MOA reticle and it works very well on a Savage Mark II. Obviously the objective bell is 7mm larger than the other two but the weights on all three of them vary no more than one ounce, from 11.1 on the 2-7 to a whopping 12.2 on the 3-9x40. wink

IMO Leupold missed it by that much, they should put an AO on their 3-9x40 rimfire model or go ahead and put the MOA reticle into their 3-9x33, then you'd have the best of both.

Finally, if the 60 yard parallax setting of the 2-7 bugs you that can be changed relatively easily.

Change a non-AO scope yourself

Adjusting parallax can be done at home on a lot of scopes

All my shooting with this gun will be squirrels and other small games as well as some plinking around. Small game is why I’m looking for the EFR.

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Originally Posted by SC_Mark
Thanks for all the responses. What has been your experiences with tract?

Originally Posted by Motown

I have owned a few tract scopes over the years and so have a few buddies of mine and none of us have had any issues. Never had one of their 22 scopes, but I think they are Philippines scopes so they should be pretty good.

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I've gotten good usage out of my Leupold VX-Freedom EFR 3-9x33 scope on my Browning T-Bolt. So no complaints there. When I was younger I did all of my rimfire hunting with a fixed 4x so whenever someone uses the word "classic", then that's what my mind thinks of even though it appears from the OP's post that he (like most people) prefers a variable. I know that both Nikko Stirling (made in Japan) and Hawke (made in China) have 4x32 AO scopes:

https://nikkostirling.com/products/rifle-scopes/mount-master/nmmi432aon

https://us.hawkeoptics.com/vantage-4x32-ao-mil-dot.html

Hawke also has their 2-7x32 AO with or without illumination:

https://us.hawkeoptics.com/vantage-2-7x32-ao-mil-dot.html

https://us.hawkeoptics.com/vantage-ir-2-7x32-ao-mil-dot-ir.html

When shopping for scopes I don't look at the Chinese ones but my used .17 HMR was a great deal and came with a Hawke Vantage IR 4-12x40 AO already on it. If I'm going to give you my honest evaluation, so far, it's been a pretty good scope.

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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Not parallax adjustable, but I can recommend this one. It has nice trim dimensions and classic lines.

https://www.natchezss.com/burris-dr...eticle-33-13-fov-31-38-er-matte-bu200019

I have a few of those and they are a good piece.


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SC_Mark, The Weaver scope in this listing might be worth considering:

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...scopes-leupold-nikon-weaver#Post18558440

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The new Freedom EFR 3-9X has a more straight tube eyebell.....not the best looking.
The old style little 3-9X EFR was much nicer aesthetically.

The new one has the objective lens rather recessed, so expect a little shadow around perimeter.
Can't remember if my old little 3-9X EFR was so afflicted.

Personally, I'd rather have a regular duplex instead of fine.

My 4-12X AO and Freedom EFR are fine duplex, usable but meh.
Still have an old M8 10X w CPC.....was gonna put that on my CZ 457 but its wearing a backup reg VX1 3-9X.
Had parallax adjusted that when on the 455, but put it back to standard.

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I have an older Leupold 3-9x33 EFR on a Ruger American Rimfire and like it a lot. I think it's perfect for a classic .22 LR. Not saying the RAR is exactly a classic, but they are good rifles.

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Mark - I have the VXII 3-9 X 33 EFR on my Anschutz 141 .ss WMR. It's been a great scope for that rifle, the third of fourth in the 60 years or so I've had the rifle and the one that will stay with it the rest of my life.


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Here’s how one looks on a Kimber of Oregon Model 82. As cra1948 said above, it will live there the rest of my life, and hopefully the rest of my 11-year-old grandons’s life as well.

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...f-oregon-82-with-3-9x33-efr#Post18552541

Oh, and here is it’s twin now for sale in our classifieds here:

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...9x33ao-rimfire-e-f-r-in-box#Post18555114

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My Marlin 880 Squirrel will be wearing this one.

Scope for 880


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I use on both my CZ .22LR rifles the 7x28 Leupold scopes for ground squirrel hunting. At rimfire range, many gophers don’t wait very long with diving under ground. Picking them up in your scope pronto is most important if you want to get a shot of. That’s why most of the time my scope is set on 4 power, lol. The little scopes have worked very well for me, never any trouble. I can highly recommend them.

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Leupold will reset the paralex distance in any scope.
They will also sell you direct any scope they make and set the paralex where you prefer it to be.
Including the other brands they make.

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I’ve ran a Leupold 2-7 rim fire for years on my browning bl-22. I’ve been more than happy with it as a truck gun and squirrel gun. Super light and looks right on the gun. So far I’ve not had to adjust zero and it don’t get babied!!


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