I’m picking up a CVA Scout as my “long bow” pretty soon. Going to be killing @ 100-160lb whitetails with it at 50-125 yard ranges. I’ve got a bunch of 210gr Sierras, some 200 and 240gr XTPs, 240gr SWC, and maybe some 240gr Speer soft points. And lots of 4227 and Universal. Should I look at some h110 or h4227 and some 300gr bullets? Or just rock on with a combo that I already have?? And how much difference am I looking at between h4227 and IMR4227 in the old One Book/One Caliber manuals?
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I’ve shot two critters with the 240 deep curl sp. Shot out of a muzzleloader, one about 80 yards and clipped both shoulders and one about 110 and typical lung shot. Both died, neither expanded much at all. It was .429 in and about .435 out. I think those bullets are jam up and jelly tight for BIG game, but not little deer.
Last edited by quackaddict; 07/21/23.
"A man may not care for golf and still be human, but the man who does not like to see, hunt, photograph or otherwise outwit birds or animals is hardly normal. He is supercivilized, and I for one do not know how to deal with him." ~ Aldo Leopold
I have a photo of my "best" wt with a 44 H&R and my ammo, but it won't post on 24HCF and I don't care to diddle with it to make it go. If you want, I can email it
What I’ll be shooting out of my CVA Scout 444 Marlin this season. Produced excellent results at the range with a 3 shot group of .659” going a touch over 2,700 fps.
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I generally use 240 nosier sp in my 44 mag rifles but will be using 240xtp’s in my new single shot 44 in Illinois this year. The noslers have always killed deer cleanly and have a 100% pass through rate on maybe 8-10 deer. My buddy has shot about the same number of deer with 240xtp, starfires, and WW white box 240sp. All deer went down for the count. I’ve used 23.5gr H110/296 as long as I can Remember.
I’m picking up a CVA Scout as my “long bow” pretty soon. Going to be killing @ 100-160lb whitetails with it at 50-125 yard ranges. I’ve got a bunch of 210gr Sierras, some 200 and 240gr XTPs, 240gr SWC, and maybe some 240gr Speer soft points. And lots of 4227 and Universal. Should I look at some h110 or h4227 and some 300gr bullets? Or just rock on with a combo that I already have?? And how much difference am I looking at between h4227 and IMR4227 in the old One Book/One Caliber manuals?
I will not use the light jacketed bullets, 240 grains and down, on meat from a .44 carbine. Years ago I quit using them even at revolver speed. For a carbine there's only one bullet I use anymore .. load a 300 grain XTP with 19.5 to 20 grains of H110 or Win 296, mag primer, with trimmed brass for consistent crimp. Other than that, I save the jacketed bullets for varmints where blowup is a good thing rather than game where blowup is a decided negative.
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I shot 2 deer out of my muzzle loader with Speer 240 deep curl. Both shots were pass throughs. 4227 will work, but H110 and W296 are tried and true powders for 44 Mag. If you need to burn up some 4227, find a load with good accuracy and you will be fine.
I would not recommend the 200 xtp for any deer. It just lacks penetration. I know of a few guys that used to use those and it seemed like every year they ended up with a heck of a long tracking job, or lost deer, because of it. On a perfect lung shot it works, but add a shoulder or bad angle and it is trouble.