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Not sure if this is the right forum, but I'll try here first.
Bought some Lapua brass, heard it was top quality, etc. etc. As per my usual procedures with new stuff, I tried it in my chamber before loading any. So this is factory brass, never been fired, straight out of the box. Brass chambered fine. No problem there. First, and every case (100), extracted fine, but would not eject from the bolt face.
My thought was that it was an extractor/ejector problem, so I tried three other name brands. All were fine. Not one hang up.
Comparing the Lapua to the others reveals that the angle cut into the web is sharper on the Lapua than the others, resulting in the case contacting the extractor at the edge of the web. So, even though both the extractor and ejectors are doing what they were made to do, the case will remain in the bolt face and have to be removed manually (easily done, no force required).
Same goes for the cases after one firing or two firings.
Is this a common issue with the Lapua brass? Or did my intimate relationship with Murphy once again reassert itself?
Pappy
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Sounds like you need a better/different rifle. Is it a Savage or Rem 700?
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Thank you for your informative and non-judgemental response. I'll be sure to upgrade all my equipment to your standards. In the meantime, I'll stuggle through my issue, hopefully without having to call upon your immense wisdom for help. Maybe, as a favour to me, you will ignore my posts and not bother to respond to them, at least until you have something intelligent to say.
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Pappy,
Have you measured the brass in a few places? Lapua brass is made to CIP specs rather than SAAMI specs. It's a tad larger in diameter at the .200 line. Maybe at the rim too?
Just checked some new Lapua 22-250 rims against some unfired '90s era WW brass & the Lapua is right around .470" +/- .003 while the WW brass is around .465" +/- .002. Some unfired Nosler brass measures .465-.468", while PPU (CIP specced) measures around .466-.470".
Just a thought... a small amount of crud build up in the corners of a snug bolt face might be problematic, or judicious polishing of the rims could help some.
Sacred cows make good burgers when you know what temperature to cook them at.-Rev. Billy
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Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Thank you for your informative and non-judgemental response. I'll be sure to upgrade all my equipment to your standards. In the meantime, I'll stuggle through my issue, hopefully without having to call upon your immense wisdom for help. Maybe, as a favour to me, you will ignore my posts and not bother to respond to them, at least until you have something intelligent to say. Your rifle is the problem. How many guys use Lapua brass successfully? It is made to exacting tolerances. I’m not a Lapua fan boy by any means, but I use it and I also use some in my 22-250’s. Instead of being a wise ass, why not answer my question about what kind of rifle it is? If you don’t think it’s your rifle that is at fault, call Lapua or sell it, instead of whining about it here.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I'm afraid Lil'Dick and the Bullschit Artist are wrong on this one, there have been several threads on this topic. I had my own 22-250AI reamer made many years ago.........the only brass at the time was Winchester, Remington, Federal and Norma. Federal and Norma were the same dimensions, so that is what I had my reamer made off of. but Remington and Winchester were smaller. I spent decades shooting Federal and Norma brass in several rifles and barrel's with ZERO issues.!!!!!! Along came Lapua many, many years late to the game with 22-250 brass, I think that I was one of the first standing in line to buy several hundred Fireforming went well but on the first full power firing the cases were a bit sticky..........I got to measuring virgin Lapua brass and found out that it exceeded SAAMI specs. it is several thou larger than any other 22-250 brass in several dimensions. I use my Lapua brass in sloppy factory chambers and it is awesome but it simply does not work in a tight chamber. Perhaps Lapua realized they F'd up on this one as they list it as "discontinued" Amazing how the "Fhuqking know it all's" are wrong once in a while
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ButtCancer,
Your Dumbfhuqktitude is plum amazing. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!…………..
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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From the hip,I only shoot it in (10) Custom Rifles,chambered 22-250,22-250AI and Speedmire. Hint. Now you know what it looks like. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!...............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Burp.... hint..... Fart...... hint..... belch.....hint...
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Burp, pass out drunk face first in dog schitt.... wake up tomorrow at noon...Wonder what happened & what day it is...
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Burp.... hint..... Fart...... hint..... belch.....hint...
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Burp, pass out drunk face first in dog schitt.... wake up tomorrow at noon...Wonder what happened & what day it is... Quit being a twat shefire.
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Some of yous guys are really foooooked up!
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Lol. It's liar Larry at his finest. Hack of all gun aspects, master of none.
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It's a gun issue, whether some of these guys want to believe it or not.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Maybe I missed what kind of rifle it was, but I’m using Lapua brass to form 22-250 AI and using in a 700 without issues. If you are interested in selling it let me know.
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I have the same issue with both Lapua SR 22-250 brass and Sako brass LR. It is the DIAMETER inside the extraction cannelure causing it to be tight on the extractor. I spun my brass up and filed a small amount off, stopped the problem.
Cheers.
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Maybe I missed what kind of rifle it was, but I’m using Lapua brass to form 22-250 AI and using in a 700 without issues. If you are interested in selling it let me know. I've asked twice now and he is not saying what kind of rifle he's having issues with.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Sako brass on the left, Lapua on the right.
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