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Yep, and I agree with your attitude.

There was a time when heathens like yourself would have a high liklihood of being killed for displaying rational skepticism and appreciation, these days you are more likely to be subject to discrimination and persecution depending on where you live.

Of all the people I know, personally, I think I know only one true Christian, as I understand it, IMO. He lived it, never pushed it.

And I am an azzhole, at times. Most times.

I never really "liked" him, but for years he was my hunting partner. He's in out-of -home-care senior care facility now, memory for chits... tears my heart out. What's the god-justice in this?

I gotta go visit him before I leave for a trip/pseudo moose hunting in a couple days.

LOL…..where?

The majority of “persecutors” these days are those against christians. This is evidenced by the recent world-wide government-enforced shut down of churches during covid, but largely unrestricted gathering for secular-based protests.

Its 2023. You weren’t ever put in a dungeon and I never took part in a crusade. Christians just want to be left alone and spread the Good News among those willing to hear it.

Christianity does teach that God provides a way to save humanity from its shortcomings instead of choosing to only judge humanity for its shortcomings.

Christianity is a system to ensure discrimination and persecution - judgement is made by Christians, not their invisible, non-existent, sky magician. Christians denigrate themselves and their fellow human beings.

God bothering Xtians just want to be left alone..???
If that was actually true they would wait till non-
believers came knocking before preaching.


The historical record over millennia clearly and overwhelmingly
demonstrates any such g0d DGAF.
Atrocious infant mortality rate was not arrested until
modern medical science made the difference..the
Xtian g0d just kicked back and watched millions of
babies and mothers suffer and die, but apparently that
same g0d doesnt approve of abortion...too funny.


Vatican or CF claims of prayers working or miracles taking place
rank with Big Foot claims..But no doubt such find favor with the
credulous minded.

Feeding Xtians to lions was justified for being atheists
(not honoring Roman state g0ds)
And Xtians through history behaved the same
way toward heretics, pagans and Jews via
massacres/pogroms , crusades and inquisitions.

Neither your g0d or Jesus bothered to hard copy record anything,
it was left to anonymous non-witness snake oil salesmen.
(Jews can at least claim their g0d personally scribed the
Ten Commandments given to Moses.)

And pagan style human blood sacrifice of a crazy apocalyptic rabbi Jesus
and fan fiction tall story resurrected corpse is hardly credible argument for
some magical mythical promise of eternal life.

If NOTHING ELSE, is not the Ten Commandments a good way to live your life by?

Or do you reject them also.

Jesus was a great leader and a great teacher. If one doubts His resurrection, you’re in good company. Even His closest disciple’s were skeptical. But those same followers went on to become the spokesmen of Jesus’ ekklesia. They maintained their faith in the midst of incredible pain and suffering and injustice. They were beaten and tortured and killed still claiming that Jesus was their risen Savior.

So what do you make of this defining event ~ the one that became the very foundation of their faith…?

The arguments against Christianity in this thread are laid out as a straw man argument. The basis for the reasoning redefines and misrepresents the Christian faith. Until this who disagree come to the discussion addressing Christianity as it it truly taught this thread is just white noise.

"Addressing Christianity as it is truly taught."

I doubt you can find 2 Christians here that could agree on that.

Starman

Even critics are generally accepting the resurrection. You are behind the times.

It’s the essentials of Christianity that really matter. It’s OK for folks to have the personal freedom to hold varying interpretations on theological issues that are non-essentials. There were disagreements among Jesus’ own apostle’s. The apostle Paul refers to some examples of disputable matters in Romans 14.

I agree with you but there again, everyone is going to interpret what is essential differently. I've been pondering the question 25 years and would have said something different about every 5 years or so. I've basically got it down to just two words now. Trust God!

word

It’s about putting one’s trust and confidence in the sacrifice that Jesus made on our behalf; He did everything that was necessary for our salvation. All of our sin…past and present and future…has already been paid for by Him. Put your trust and confidence in the sacrifice that Jesus made on our behalf, and NOTHING else.

There’s something extremely funny if not psychologically troubling about the atheists that feel compelled to interject themselves and their stupidity in every Christian thread while THEY insult us, our God and our faith and then they bitch, wail and cry about how persecuted the little pussies are. 😂

Hypocritical, immature pussies that seek out people to intentionally insult then cry about how mean everyone is and how persecuted they are for insulting us. I’m not perfect which is why I’d love to turn their other cheek for them involuntarily…..then they’d at least have something legitimate and real to complain about!

Yea, but that's just because you're paying attention to them. I don't know what they said or did and don't care. Not that I haven't fallen for that crap too many times before. All of us have better thoughts to let dwell in us. There's always plenty of stuff to find wrong. It won't make you feel any better though. There's also lots of good things to think about. The whole world tries to point you toward the bad so it's a fight to focus on the good but it's there and you will have a lot better time looking for it than the other.

I know what you mean RH but Ray has turned a frown upside down and his recent engagements have been hilarious. I actually don’t now and never have ever had to “electronically ignore” anyone no matter how much I despised them. The atheist cucks here I don’t despise…heck I don’t even “hate” them, I feel sorry for them and I get angry but ultimately they’ve shown how truly stupid they are. I feel sorry for them. They’re not stupid because they don’t believe (although I think that’s stupid) they’re stupid because they can’t formulate their own thoughts in a rational or cogent manner and they allow their emotions from the damage their overbearing mothers and handsy fathers had to inform their entire world view on religion. They’re extremely limited in their ability to discuss or debate anything… without a “shotgun” approach to religious discussions they’re wholly unarmed, uniformed and quivering emotional basket cases. 😂

I don’t care what you believe and I’m not interested in converting anyone unless it’s their desire to seek the Lord. In that case I would do everything I could to attend to that with the Love of God leading the way.

Otherwise I’m just as likely to break your jaw if you acted in person like these clowns act online….(not “you” RH 😉)

Okay. Let’s be honest. Evangelistic outreach is the same inconvenience as any secular solicitor. No different. Nobody is sticking their foot in your door as you close it, much less riding in on horses and hacking down unbelievers. A simple “I’m not interested” gets nearly all undesirable would-be preachers going on down the road.

And again, you’ve never done time in a dungeon.



This gives me a chuckle. I, honestly do not know what is being attempted here. Do you believe in God and hate him so much that you intentionally misspell His name….or do not believe in a god and just look to insult christians. If the latter, I’m forced to assume you have, at least the intelligence to know its provocative and risks nobody taking you seriously. More to the point, if that’s the case, you know pretty much 99% of the christians here see it for what it is and the conversation is no longer about God (with the offender, anyway). It just turns into an ole fashioned worldly mud-slinging between guys that think the other one is a complete and utter douche.

Just wanted to be clear. I know of 2 complete morons that can’t grasp that simple concept.