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Jim Conrad, Any good conservative will believe in the power of free market capitalism. It's what made us the greatest society in the world. But, my point is...the market is no longer free...the mega corporations have tilted the playing field by buying politicians and passing laws to squeeze out competition.
I'll give you an example, a nearby landowner, at huge expense, did all the .gov permitting process, built a small fish friendly hydro generating facility on the Shasta River. Pacificorp (Warren Buffet) by law, was required to buy his power. For whatever reasons, Warren didn't like that, within 3 years, the Public Utilities Commission added a rule that exempted Pacificorp from buying power "if it was not in the best interests of the consumer". Free market my ass. You can apply that to every facet of business, transportation (look at the environmental squeeze on independent trucking), agriculture, building materials ( I can't get my full dimension quality lumber ok'd for building code). Jim the fix is in.

Yes...I know.


I brought it up during Covid. Lots here were buy and selling at huge price increases.


The TP and Purell hoarders were called free market heros.




WTF??? A shortage and hyper price increase caused by and enforced by GOVT?


THATS the free market?


Bullshit.


It's Chrony Capitalism and it's evil.

Starting a War for Profit after buying stock in companies that benefit from the war and accepting bribes from the same companies is evil.


I am not sure how the "capitalists" got the free market vs centrally planned economy so confused.


Probably we let them get away with it.

I'll take my theory a step further, money is made by imbalances in the free market, supply and demand, where there is a demand an enterpreneur will leap in and fill it...making a profit. But for the last 40 years our little helpers at .gov have dominated the market. By rules, regulation and tax law...they created the demand...and the crony's of .gov are there to fill it.
Example...Port of LA and Long Beach (highest freight volume in the US)...Calif law passed for zero emissions in the ports...No diesel powered trucks. So now Mr Trucker, you drop your load at a staging area outside the port, an electric truck or tug takes it into the port, for a price...big price. The electric truck industry/battery industry just got a huge shot in the arm, from .gov, picking winners and losers and actually creating and industry where none existed. We should wonder if the electric truck batteries are made in China, hell, maybe the trucks? In any case, my Transvestite Barbie doll playset has now doubled in price...thanks, we have the best govt money can buy.

Erik Prince does a good job of explaining this in the podcast I posted.

Crony capitalism isn't capitalism..... mix in a little socialism and that is what we have today, it won't end well....
But the "useful idiots" will certainly blame capitalism

What about the useful idiots that champion Chony capitalism as "real" capitalism?

That is why they are "idiots"

Hahaha! Fair point.



I don't care much how you make your money.....but it pisses me off when people try and pass a centrally planned economy off as a free market capitalist economy.


Hell...not even "free market". Eh Comrade?

Great answers guys. Spot on!

most millionaires are self made...what a joke. 90% of rich people stole the money or inherited from parents that stole money. govt admited to a trillion of covid money stolen so you can double that. hundreds of billions stolen in iraq and afghan. 100's of 1000's of contracts for public works half the money is stolen. all charities including wounded warriors 90% of the money stolen. bannon stole from the build the wall fund. the list is endless

Hahahaha!


Oh boy......

What? I thought we were preserving democracy in Ukraine.... lmao

flintlocke got the best take on this. big business along with the paid of govt crushes competition. US attacked the mother country Europe blowing up the pipelines so US gas producers could sell their gas for 400-700% more put sanctions on China for their chips trying to corner the market but China made their own for their new phone which is the most advanced chip. US cant compete hardly with anybody especially China who graduates millions of engineers chemists scientists etc while US graduates tens of thousands of lawyers many are negros that read at 4th grade level. US imports millions of street chitters from india to compete but it aint working. a diverse chithole like the US will never beat a homogenous society family orientated like China and Japan. in world history there was never aseptic tank of non whites that created a empire or successful country and the US will not be the first

It's not how much you make. It's how much you spend. I haven't heard much about the bird flu either.

I saw statistics last week that included all of the taxes at every level of government. The top 20% of income earners payed a smaller percent of income in taxes compared to the third 20%, who payed the highest percent of income in taxes. I don't know if that's fair or not. For sure the top 20% pay more in absolute dollar terms.

Completely wrong, but nice try. The Millionaire Next Door is actual research and shows just the opposite to be true. It's mostly about making choices. Read it if you really want to know. Or just go on playing the victim. Whatever makes you feel better.

The Tax Foundation says that the top 1% of earners paid 42% of all the income tax paid in 2020. The top 25% paid 89% of all the income taxes collected. Pretty sure the top guys are paying their fair share.

and you believe it? anybody that thinks like you either stole or inherited it. you people think you are talking to idiots. I worked 45 years framing roofing and doing concrete. never thought I would get rich but tired of hearing bullchit. so in your mind in order to become a millionaire is just a choice like nobody wants to get rich they want to be poor. now I will hear your story of how you had a paper route making a dollar a month worked 200 hours a week saved up and now own an intergalactical company

Working and saving is not enough to get wealthy, you have to learn to invest.... simple math will prove this out.
To me it sounds like you are making excuses for not being wealthy?