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25-06 I blame Milek - wasn’t his phrase Radar-like accuracy?
308 was directly inspired by Wooters Sako with a full stock - can’t remember the model.
300 Weatherby - Jack O’Connor - can’t remember the book but he was blowing huge chunks off of rocks?
338-06 Fin Aagard & Steve Timm/Dogzapper
340 Wby - Bob Hagel
First of only 2 blown primers in my career - Bob Hagel
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First of only 2 blown primers in my career - Bob Hagel Holy smokes! That was Good To Go. Laughed me butt off.
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First of only 2 blown primers in my career - Bob Hagel Yep, Bob liked to light 'em up! One of the magazine editors Bob worked for during his career told me that Bob's handloads had expanded the chambers of at least a couple rifles the editor knew of.
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Got to add Bob Hagel along with Ross Seyfried and Craig Boddington who lit my fire for the .340 Wby.
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Ross Seyfried did an article on the .340 Wby in G&A that made me want one. Also Craig Boddington writing about the .340 and .338 Win didn't help me much on wanting either those two cartridges.
Ross Seyfried, Craig Boddington, John Wooters articles on the .416's in the late 1980's had me lusting for those also. Ah ha! It was that same RS article that led me to build a 340 which for twenty years was my elk rifle. Many fond memories as I loved the cartridge and the rifle I cobbled up. And it slew elk like Sampson did Philistines. It took me awhile, but I finally bought a Weatherby Fibermark in .340 Wby because of that Ross article.
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One I never got but was fascinated about was Bob Hagel's writing about his dad's Win M1895 in 35 Winchester. The pics, the story and the performance of the cartridge were great. Wonder what happened to that heirloom.
His wildcat 338-300wm story was interesting but seemed like a lot of work for little gain.
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It was Bob fuel-the-booster Hagel 😮 that was responsible for me building a Gentry 270 Wby. Thankfully I didn’t follow up the 378 Wby, another of his favorites.
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DON’T BE TOO PROUD OF THIS TECHNOLOGICAL TERROR YOU’VE CONSTRUCTED. THE ABILITY TO DESTROY A PLANET IS INSIGNIFICANT NEXT TO THE POWER OF THE FORCE.
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First of only 2 blown primers in my career - Bob Hagel Holy smokes! That was Good To Go. Laughed me butt off. First of only 2 blown primers in my career - Bob Hagel Yep, Bob liked to light 'em up! One of the magazine editors Bob worked for during his career told me that Bob's handloads had expanded the chambers of at least a couple rifles the editor knew of. Haha. As I typed my 340 remarks, the blown primer came immediately back to my mind. I was just chasing some ‘practical ballistics’ looking for a ‘Game Load’ and nearly crapped my early 20’s pants. Had to add it.
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Remington Model 7 in 7mm-08 - Great advertising for the Model Seven in the 1980s 250-3000 - 7X57 Mauser - 257 Roberts - Sportman's Arms and Ammunition Manual by Jack O'Connor circa 1951 308 Winchester pre 64 Model 70 Featherweight specifically because of this forum and also the 9.3x62 because we all dream of Africa
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I have, or have had, a 25-06 and the 35 Whelen because of articles written by Bob Milek I was also growing an interest in the 25-06 from Milek articles. Then, at the shooting range I noticed a guy with some young teens and they were all having fun shooting a 25-06. They let me shoot theirs and I noticed how light the recoil was and I wanted one for sure!
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A bunch of them were talked about in ways that made them appeal to me. I got into firearms in the late 50's and early 60's (I graduatedhigh school in 65). It was a great time.
.308 Norma Magnum; This was the darling of my uncles and gun writers who bemoaned the failings, perceived or real of the .300 Winchester Magnum. It is still one of my favorites.
7x61 mm Sharpe and Hart; A girlfriend had one. her dad was a big fan and educated me. I regard mine as the equivalent of a .280AI, Maybe a bit more. It is about done though.
.35 Whelen; Most of the early 60's gun writers had a lot of good to say about it. I really liked it but I used my .338 more. A nephew has it now. It is headed to Alaska with him.
1899 .250-3000 TD - the whole package. I suppose Francis Sell should get some credit.
.32-20 H.V. in an 1892 Winchester - A gift around 1956 from my oldest sisters husband. He had used it to kill all his deer until he bought a .30-06 760 pump as a junior in high school. Elmer Keith even liked it. We lived in Foster Oregon at the time and lots deer around. Usually shot at closerange. Probably 25 yards max. I never got to use it on one though.
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I have always wanted a 300 H&H. Still have the itch but have not got it done...yet.
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My Dad subscribed to Outdoor Life as he was a huge Pat McManus fan. We really couldn’t afford that subscription but my mom always renewed it without complaint. I read them cover to cover again and again. But I always read Jim Carmichel first and most. I think I’ve read every article he wrote for them. Consequently I always had a soft spot for the 280 and 338 Win Mag.
Part of that was I really liked rifles that appeared in several articles. It always made it a better read. So his Biesen 7x57, Nelson 280, and Miller 338 were favourites. Nothing was a bigger disappointment to me than seeing a “prop” rifle on a hunt. It, in a way, ruined the article for me.
As I started to buy my own magazines I read a lot of Craig Boddington. He is a lefty and so am I. The rifle I always liked to read about of his was his Webernick 300 WBY. Built on a LH SS Winchester Model 70. I wanted something similar. With its grey synthetic stock and fluted barrel it looked all business. Someday I might duplicate it in 7MM Remington Magnum or maybe a 338 Win Mag.
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257 Roberts. touted by several gun writers n the late 60s. My father, shortly before his passing, bought a model 77 liberty in 1976, and I fell in love with it.
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From reading the Savage forum here, .250 Savage and .300 Savage - I now have them both in Savage 99 takedowns.
Also from reading other forums here, next in the list is the .35 Whelen.
Finally - B&L 3200-4200 / Bushnell Elite 3000-4000 scopes and the Weaver K4/K6 60B scopes.
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In the '70s, I used to cut Carmichael's cartridge columns out of OL, sort them and keep them in a three ring binder.
Tis how I discovered there was other than 30-06 and 30 Rem/30-30. Jim guided me to purchase my first rifle, a 22-250 in a MIJ Wea MK V deluxe Varmint master. A beautifully scaled mini action.
I learned from JC to appreciate max point blank range, and high velocity cartridges. My next new rifle was a 25-06.
Still due to JC's tutelage, I laid eyes on a box of 264 Win cartridges in 1980. I thought that was the sexiest thing I had ever seen. It took me over ten years to finally find the rifle in a local gunshop. Nobody was chambering for 264 at that time. But finally a Win 70 classic came into the LGS, and came home with me. The story would have been the same had it been a 257 Wea, which I had spied first. same/same
Layne Simpson convinced me I needed a 7MM STW. I finally found a Ruger #1 at Sportsman's.
I can not really blame anyone for my affinity for the 260. I simply liked the idea of a 120 gr 6.5mm at a moderate velocity without burning 60 gr of powder. (as in the 264) Though history shows, once again, JC was largely responsible for development of the cartridge.
I never had any exposure to Keith or JOC. JC is primarily responsible for my wayward tendencies.
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I have always wanted a 300 H&H. Still have the itch but have not got it done...yet. The Remington Classics are nice! It’s made in 300 H&H
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As a left-handed shooter, there are a few cartridges that appear to have never been made in LH models. So of course I wanted them because they were unobtainable without building it myself (still a possibility!) or stumbling across a rare custom at auction. Two that leap to mind are the 257 Roberts & the 35 Whelen. Two classic calibers that a lot of people are fond of but for the most part, right-hand only.
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