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Bobski, do you know if the safety buttons are interchangeable between 12 and 20ga M50s? And I assume m59s would be alike? I need to get a Rh safety put into this little 20 before our dove opener on Sept 1 and I’ll use the one out of my M59 parts gun if it’s interchangeable.

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im going to say no. never ran across the need.
give it a shot with your spare but im positive the trigger groups and parts are different.
and of course, im not near one to see right now!


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An update for anyone who may care. The safety buttons in my 20ga M50 and 12ga M59 interchange just fine. I assume they used the same part in 12 and 20ga M50s as well as the 12ga only M59s. All the dimensions I could measure were the same.

I will probably grab a box of shells in the morning and take it out for the dove opener when I get off work.

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I picked up 2 model 50s last week at an estate sale. Both 26" Imp Cy 12 Ga. I also got a load of stocks and forends as well. One of the guns receiver was cracked just in front of the mag well. I stopped by my gunsmith and he had a receiver in his parts room. I got home and cleaned it up and installed all the parts into the new receiver. Gun shot great, I took it Saturday to a dove shoot and was rather impressed with the results. I hadn't shoot doves in a couple of years and the few shoots I've gone to sucked. This was the first shoot that I actually got a limit and to top it off I got a double on 2 birds. Needless to say the model 50 is probably going to stay for awhile. I did notice as the gun got hot the rear stock started feeling loose. When I checked it this morning it felt tight. Is that something that others have encountered?


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Picked this one up a while back. Would appreciate very much any input on engraving or value of this old Model 50 12 ga. Somebody who "called himself gunsmith" polished the barrel for re-bluing and while doing so he polished out a gold inlay under the barrel about 4" in front of the fore end. I can only make out bits and pieces. Don't know if it was the engraver, or who it was engraved for. What a pisser !! Breaks my heart. The inlays are in silver. As I asked before, any info would be appreciated. The serial #77XXX. Thanks guys!!

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Originally Posted by oldgunsmith
Picked this one up a while back. Would appreciate very much any input on engraving or value of this old Model 50 12 ga. Somebody who "called himself gunsmith" polished the barrel for re-bluing and while doing so he polished out a gold inlay under the barrel about 4" in front of the fore end. I can only make out bits and pieces. Don't know if it was the engraver, or who it was engraved for. What a pisser !! Breaks my heart. The inlays are in silver. As I asked before, any info would be appreciated. The serial #77XXX. Thanks guys!!
Years ago, I acquired a Win M-94 engraved a lot like that M-50. It had been bought at a PX by a serviceman serving in Japan. He got a local engraver to do his thing, brought it home. That gun with silver inlays and the type engraving remind me of this gun. Mine had silver bear and deer. I later traded it.

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I had a cherry 20ga 50 in my hands a couple years ago that I regret not buying. It was $600 or so, but the shop also had a Savage 99 .22-250 that had been a lifelong bucket-list gun and I couldn't buy both.

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I was wondering myself if it was a cigarette gun, but the engraving seemed more German to me. I have a couple of guns that were from Suhl and it reminds me of them. Just couldn't figure gold inlay on the underside of the barrel. Has me stumped. Shoots well :):)



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there were only 5 different plates that winchester did for m50's. none are that design. artist unknown.
I have one similar with 4 bbls and im asking 5 grand. so, yours could be a pretty penny.
pm me and send me pics of the wood too. be glad to try and guess.
https://www.americantrapshooter.com...0-4-bbl-set-custom-engraving-12ga.14786/
as for the safeties...now that is a new bit of info!
12 and 20 the same. wow.


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Had already seen your shotgun online. It is a beautiful gun. The wood on mine although dark and pleasing to the eye, it is not presentation grade or extra fancy. It does not have pigeon over the serial number as well. Will post more photos at a later day. Thanks for you info.

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ok, lets just make a separate topic. I don't want to steal 'thekids' topic here.


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Oh so sorry !! I haven't posted in a very long time and I guess I forgot my manners. I do apologize.

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No need to apologize to me. I hunted most of my meager dove season with mine. Very soft shooting and good pointing little shotgun if a little muzzle light. I used mostly cheap 7/8oz field loads but it worked reliably with everything I fed it. I feel like I did okay for what it cost me.

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I was looking for a 20 myself when I stumbled onto this one. I wish mine was a 20, if I find one at the price you got yours for, I'll definitely be buying another one !! I mainly love them because they are unique, and who can resist something designed by Marshall "Carbine" Williams ?? That in itself makes one great.



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I will be selling all my 20ga m50's as a collection very soon. i think there are 6. visit my forum and stay tuned. sorry, no clunkers.


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oldgunsmith..........check your pm's.


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