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Originally Posted by 8MMX57JS
Hard to argue with this......

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That’s a great group for a factory load. What stock is that on your M77?

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Its a laminate stock coated with camo. It was a run ruger did in collaboration with FTW. The come free floated from factory unlike some of the other stocks that have a pressure point.

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That blue box stuff is hard to beat
Have shot it in 243 , 308 , 30-06 , and 45/70
Shot dam good in everything I put it in
Sometimes so good it made you wonder why you let yourself be troubled with handloading
But that was when you could get it for 8-9 bucks a box
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Another vote for the Hornady American Whitetail, at least in the 117 Gr 25-06 load. They group around 1-1.25”. I don’t mind using those to make once fired brass!


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I've killed deer with all of them, core lokts, power points, power shoks, American whitetails, Fusions. They all work.

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Originally Posted by Blackheart
I've killed deer with all of them, core lokts, power points, power shoks, American whitetails, Fusions. They all work.
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Originally Posted by earlybrd
American whitetail interlocks

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All the ones mentioned are good, if your rifle likes them. That said, I've been very impressed with the Norma offerings and they distribute right out of your state of Georgia. I four different calibers, 308, 270, 3006 and 300 WM, they have outperformed all other brands accuracy wise.

I stumbled across a great deal on some Norma 6.5x55 SE with 140gr Nosler Partitions for $22.45 / box. It was such a good deal, I was worried it might be a scam. But the case I ordered was delivered & they shoot great.

And I thank you for that back when. My Goens pre64 M70 likes it well enough.


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Originally Posted by 84Mtn_EER
Tough to beat Hornady American Whitetail with the Interlocks.

I agree. Tried Norma Whitetail in my 308’s and they really like it. I rarely shoot commercial loads. But, the Norma will shoot to the same point of aim as my reloads. That’s nice insurance.

The Hornady Interlocks are very hard to beat.


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Another vote for Blue Box Federal. 130gr loads work fine in .270's for KY WT's. That's what I use when the grand kids come around wanting to sight in their rifles...



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Originally Posted by Futura
Originally Posted by 8MMX57JS
Hard to argue with this......

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That’s a great group for a factory load. What stock is that on your M77?
Looks like a factory Hawkeye FTW.


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Factory ammo 🤷‍♂️ ……I had to do a Google search to determine what it was! 😉 memtb


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Originally Posted by memtb
Factory ammo 🤷‍♂️ ……I had to do a Google search to determine what it was! 😉 memtb



Me too, haven’t shot a factory load in 40 years

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👍 😁 memtb


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You better go back and get more of the same lot number...great shooting.

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Been using Hornady American Whitetail 150s in my 308 for a while now with stellar results. My 30-06 likes the same brand with 180s and will be what goes with me to Colorado at the end of the month.

So another vote for Hornady.


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I can only recall two deer I’ve shot with factory rifle ammo in the past 6 decades. One was with a Norma .222 round in 1967, the other was with a Federal blue box 150 or 165 grain .308 load about five years ago. Leading up to that, I shot up about a box of the .308’s in my 1B. They were accurate enough, holding just over an inch at a hundred. The deer was DRT with massive damage on the high shoulder impact site. Distance was only about 40 yards so the bullet was still moving pretty fast, but I’ve wondered if it might have hit a branch and impacted off balance and tumbled.


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Originally Posted by CGPAUL
You better go back and get more of the same lot number...great shooting.

I bought a couple cases right at the start of covid for 19.99$ each, so i have plenty to last me. Found this ammo to shoot great in any 30-06 I've owned. Have a friend who was loading for a 30-06 and he couldn't get it to shoot very well. To confirm whether it was his ammo or rifle i tried a group with federal and it shot right around 1" mark. -clearly his rifle was capable but the reloads not so much.

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Fed blue box has been good for me.

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I have has the best luck with Federal blue box and Hornady American Whitetail over the widest range of rifles and chamberings. Sometimes I never get beyond this economy ammo it shoots so well. I have never had a whitetail run far when well hit with either brand cup and core bullet.


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