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If I wanted to use my shotgun for defense, I would just use my turkey shells. Inside the house distances, that would be plenty effective.
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Campfire Kahuna
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Campfire Kahuna
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#3 or 4 buck, #4/5/6 shot.
I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
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Campfire Ranger
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If I were to have a shotgun as my primary & fine tune for all it's worth, I'd order Federal or Winchester 2 3/4" #1 Buck. Don't remember their names but both brands have them with 16 pellets, as opposed to the standard 12. #1 is still .30 caliber. Not shabby.
Otherwise, like many have said, grab some shells with bigger shot. EXCEPT! I'd avoid pattern control Goose or Turkey type loads. Those things are made to hold tight out to 40 or 50 yards. Extremely thick & stiff wads, would be about like shooting a slug @ home, or even most yard distances. Common slugs much cheaper if that's what ya need. One thing about the shot loads in stiff wad vs slugs is once a wall is penetrated the shot won't ricochet, the slug will bounce through the country like a bowling ball.
The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!
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Campfire Oracle
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Military surplus 00 in my Benelli Mark II. It's high velocity and is designed to thrown a wide pattern. I've got the improved cylinder screw in choke in the gun to make it hold a bit tighter than the cylinder bore shotguns that it was made to be shot through.
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Campfire Ranger
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BB, #2 or #4 lead. Maybe even a field load if that's what happens to be in the gun during bord/small game season.
#3 or #4 Buck. I think I have a few boxes of #1 buck.
No need for 00 at hallway ranges. +1. #4 buck is all one needs for HD.
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Campfire Ranger
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Picked up some more ammo for the scatter gun. In the past I purchased Federal LE Flight Control. Geeeeez the price is crazy - $12.25 for 5 freakin shells.
So grabbed a few boxes of Fiocchi Defense 00 Buck for $11 for 25 shells. Confirmed that is goes bang when the trigger is pulled. Not sure anyone is going to notice the difference on the receiving end.
What is everyone else running with? Running?
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I have done numerous experiments on the subject. Ie took sheetrock to range. With kids I had #4 low brass lead, good pattern from my bed to door, and didn't over penetrate to their room. Now kids are gone 458 socom, 3" 04 buck and numerous other calibers laying around😉
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Campfire 'Bwana
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I know that 12 Gauge #4 buck works well, 24 pellets do a number on human flesh at close range. If you shoot someone in your house, you should keep shooting them as long as you feel that they pose a deadly threat to you and/or your family.
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Campfire Sage
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I can afford an AR.
But I know they're not for everybody.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Campfire Ranger
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The Federal Flight control 8 pellet stuff is the best on the market. extremely low recoil, very tight patterns My 870P with rifle sights keeps all of the pellets in a paper plate out to 25 yards or so.
The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude
Whatever. Tell the oompa loompa's hey for me. [/quote]. LtPPowell
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you do not want to shoot heavy shot to blow thru walls, skeet choke, 3' #5-6 shot peal the paint off the walls and put a few hundred pellets in the intruder
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Campfire Ranger
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At “inside the house” ranges I don’t think it matters. Regardless of the shot size the shot column is going to be one big wad of lead.
NRA Life,Endowment,Patron or Benefactor since '72.
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Campfire Outfitter
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I wonder what the average range is inside of a house when one is in self defense mode? Heck, my shack is 15 yards long so I could make a hell of a mess with #9 skeet loads. A cyl. choke is about the only one that interest me in a situation like this. But other folks will have different needs.
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Campfire Tracker
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Campfire Tracker
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#4 Buck
41 6mm sized buckshot in a 3” can’t be wrong, patterns better than 00 too I'm a #1 buck aficionado! Sixteen .32 caliber bullets headed down range. In my 3 shot Rem Sportsman, that's 48 bullets. I only use 2 3/4" ammo.
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Campfire Regular
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Campfire Regular
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Hornady Varmint Express #4 Buck. Its what I use in a shotgun for predators and Im sure it will do fine on 2 leggeds as well. My 410 Shockwave thats in the bedroom has the Hornady defense loads with the slug and 2 35 cal pellets. At the less than 5 yard hallway distance they group under 2 inches and penetrate well. In my shop I have a mossberg 500 12 with 18.5 barrel, FO sights, extended mag tube and Ar style stock. This is loaded with a chambered round of Federal LE Low recoil 00 then 2 brenneke home defense slugs then remainder the buckshot. Have an Esstac 6 round card mounted with the slugs.
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Campfire Tracker
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Campfire Tracker
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I can afford an AR.
But I know they're not for everybody. Pop off a few rounds from a short Bbl'ed AR in a hallway? You better be able to afford cochlear implants as well. Ha! GR
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Campfire Tracker
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Picked up some more ammo for the scatter gun. In the past I purchased Federal LE Flight Control. Geeeeez the price is crazy - $12.25 for 5 freakin shells.
So grabbed a few boxes of Fiocchi Defense 00 Buck for $11 for 25 shells. Confirmed that is goes bang when the trigger is pulled. Not sure anyone is going to notice the difference on the receiving end.
What is everyone else running with? : to accept something, start to use it, and develop it further example: The Japanese took that technology and ran with it.https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/run-withrun within American English informal a. to proceed or go ahead with If the stockholders like the idea, we'll run with itb. to carry out with enthusiasm or speed https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/run-with
"Whose bright idea was it to put every idiot in the world in touch with every other idiot? It's working!" -- P. J. O'Rourke
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#2 Lead 1 1/2 oz Baby Magnums
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#4 Buck
41 6mm sized buckshot in a 3” can’t be wrong, patterns better than 00 too THIS ^^^^^^^^^
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#4 Buck
41 6mm sized buckshot in a 3” can’t be wrong, patterns better than 00 too My Go To.
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