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My friend's son chose the Rock River Rrage 2G and got a smoking deal on it at $600 from Smokey Mountains Guns and Ammo. I had an extra Vortex Razor HD that was donated to the cause.
Based on his comments, he's now very interested in 3 gun (thus the Razor) so this will not be his last AR platform. Good to see the next gen getting involved.
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If it's his first rifle, don't piece one together. Just buy a complete rifle from a good company.
It's nice to pick and choose exactly what you want, but you've gotta get all the crap together to build it.
Also, you may have to deal with stuff not fitting as it should. In my very small sample size of receivers, I've had upper that would NOT pin on my PSA SBR lower without wallowing out the pin holes.
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Rarely hear of the Ruger MPR.
How does it rate??
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Initially the Ruger MPR was a dismal rifle. Countless complaints about FTF/FTE issues. If you read current posts on the Ruger Forum, their reliability issues are still a challenge.
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Initially the Ruger MPR was a dismal rifle. Countless complaints about FTF/FTE issues. If you read current posts on the Ruger Forum, their reliability issues are still a challenge. Bull. You don't know jack [bleep] so don't spread FUD. The MPR with the 18" barrel and rifle length gas system is a nice rifle for the $700-$800 price point. Comes with a very good two-stage trigger. Once a guy has a lower, he can put whatever upper on it he wants. But if you're starting out, the Ruger MPR is a very nice rifle from a company that will stand behind it so that you don't have to troubleshoot on a forum.
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Spend 5 minutes googling Ruger MPR problems.
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Our failure list is at work. I’ll check it next week. Thanks, I’d really be interested in what you saw.
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Spend 5 minutes googling Ruger MPR problems. You dumb [bleep], you can find problems with any brand via Google. Probably found your own moronic post.
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It's pretty hard now days to find a schitty AR but you sure got it done. Congratulations? Google - Springfield Armory Saint failures
You'll get lots of hits. The Saint is a hard no. Exactly this. My friend's son chose the Rock River Rrage 2G and got a smoking deal on it at $600 from Smokey Mountains Guns and Ammo. I had an extra Vortex Razor HD that was donated to the cause.
Based on his comments, he's now very interested in 3 gun (thus the Razor) so this will not be his last AR platform. Good to see the next gen getting involved. Good job on the Razor.
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My friend's son chose the Rock River Rrage 2G and got a smoking deal on it at $600 from Smokey Mountains Guns and Ammo. I had an extra Vortex Razor HD that was donated to the cause.
Based on his comments, he's now very interested in 3 gun (thus the Razor) so this will not be his last AR platform. Good to see the next gen getting involved. That Rock River doesn't sound like a bad rifle at all. Kudos to you on the donation of the Razor. I've looked through one several times. A friend who works at an LGS near me has the 1-6 on his primary AR. It's some pretty darn nice glass, for sure. The only downside is they sure don't give them away. Around $1500 if I remember correctly.
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Initially the Ruger MPR was a dismal rifle. Countless complaints about FTF/FTE issues. If you read current posts on the Ruger Forum, their reliability issues are still a challenge. Bull. You don't know jack [bleep] so don't spread FUD. The MPR with the 18" barrel and rifle length gas system is a nice rifle for the $700-$800 price point. Comes with a very good two-stage trigger. Once a guy has a lower, he can put whatever upper on it he wants. But if you're starting out, the Ruger MPR is a very nice rifle from a company that will stand behind it so that you don't have to troubleshoot on a forum. Ruger will stand behind a product, and they often have to. They had to with my Ruger AR. Got it back and it's a friggin shooter. The last time I shot it, it did these two groups. I shot the one to the left, then made an adjustment to put me 1.5 high. That was the last of that particular load.
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Good deal. And for the record, I never said they weren't accurate; just not reliable out of the box. Glad you got yours shooting! Now move the target from 15 yards to 100.
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Good deal. And for the record, I never said they weren't accurate; just not reliable out of the box. Glad you got yours shooting! Now move the target from 15 yards to 100.
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So I'm in the market for an "upscale" M4. My son (former 3rd Ranger Battalion) wants me to go Colt. I'm leaning towards Daniel Defense. I want absolute reliability, but also accuracy, fit and finish. Which would you recommend?
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KAC or LMT, buy once, cry once.
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So I'm in the market for an "upscale" M4. My son (former 3rd Ranger Battalion) wants me to go Colt. I'm leaning towards Daniel Defense. I want absolute reliability, but also accuracy, fit and finish. Which would you recommend? My Colt 6920 isn't in the same zip code as LaRue, Geissele, LMT, Centurion Arms, or DD
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Anything wrong or need to be upgraded with either the Daniel Defense line or the Colt 6920's?
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Anything wrong or need to be upgraded with either the Daniel Defense line or the Colt 6920's? My Colt trigger sucked. It didn't NEED to be replaced, but it was.
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