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yeah, I replaced with Geissele.
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yeah, I replaced with Geissele. That, on sale, or an MBT if paying full price for me. Both have been GTG.
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Not that I am aware of. The Colt or DD is good to go. Slip 2000 EWL on the bolt and carrier, and the gun just runs.
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Blem Geissele triggers are ridiculously cheap right now. I believe a G2S is <$100.
your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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So I'm in the market for an "upscale" M4. My son (former 3rd Ranger Battalion) wants me to go Colt. I'm leaning towards Daniel Defense. I want absolute reliability, but also accuracy, fit and finish. Which would you recommend? Depends on what you mean by “accuracy”. In the reliable market SOLGW has the best anodizing, hands down. Geissele is an excellent choice and on sale right now. A Super Duty for $1600 is a lot of gun for the money. Sionics would likely be the most accurate, based on my experience. I’ve tested 5 of their 5R barrels and they’ve all been 1.75” or less for 10 shots with ball ammo. Mine regularly shoots 1.25-1.5” for 10 shots.
your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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Aero Precision 300 BLK here
T R U M P W O N !
U L T R A M A G A !
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The Sionics is the only option I’d choose of everything mentioned. And it’s an excellent choice. Or this….. https://www.primaryarms.com/sons-of-liberty-gun-works-m4-patrol-sl-5-56-nato-ar-15-rifle-16inWhen you see a lot of rifles come through a program you see trends develop. The budget brands consistently have failures. And anyone who says that ARs are “figured out” is right. The recipe for a reliable AR is available. And only a handful of companies follow the recipe. Nearly every brand mentioned will have serious issues. You'd have to be a total [bleep] to spend $1235 on a first AR for someone who isn't likely to shoot more than a hundred rounds a year. What planet are you from anyway? I think your experience only applies to the tiny percentage of AR users who play games or do classes. That is probably all the more reason for the person who may only shoot 100 rounds per year. I have 2 ARs that probably don't see 200 rounds a year both are higher end rifles, one is an DD Mk 12 set up for daytime predator hunting, the other is a RRA FRed Eichler series set up for night use. I have a few others that probably get shot a metric shidt ton more than those, and they are what most would consider a budget gun. they are each built for different purposes
The government plans these shootings by targeting kids from kindergarten that the government thinks they can control with drugs until the appropriate time--DerbyDude
Whatever. Tell the oompa loompa's hey for me. [/quote]. LtPPowell
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My Colt 6920 isn't in the same zip code as LaRue, Geissele, LMT, Centurion Arms, or DD Centurion is highly under rated as lots of people just don't know their name, but they make a really top shelf gun. I'd take a Centurion any day over a DD. MM
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I like that accuracy test, 10 shots. I think most people shoot 3-5 and call it good. I need to try that a few times!
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So I'm in the market for an "upscale" M4. My son (former 3rd Ranger Battalion) wants me to go Colt. I'm leaning towards Daniel Defense. I want absolute reliability, but also accuracy, fit and finish. Which would you recommend? Depends on what you mean by “accuracy”. In the reliable market SOLGW has the best anodizing, hands down. Geissele is an excellent choice and on sale right now. A Super Duty for $1600 is a lot of gun for the money. Sionics would likely be the most accurate, based on my experience. I’ve tested 5 of their 5R barrels and they’ve all been 1.75” or less for 10 shots with ball ammo. Mine regularly shoots 1.25-1.5” for 10 shots. I'm admittedly a Geissele fan. They sponsor cola warriors stuff, and are awesome. Despite that, objectively, super duty rifles are awesome.
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