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I’m very impressed with this Custom 6.5 Creed 147ELD-M from Hornady. Now I want to develop a load using this bullet. The powder locker has Varget, Rl-15,17,19,22 and 23 4350 in IMR, H, and XMR 4831 in IMR and H Ramshot Hunter and probably a few more in there I forgot about. What’s worked best for you in your Creedmoor?
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I focus on H4350, RL17, and IMR 4451. With lighter bullets I sneak some H414 into the mix.
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41.0 gr of RL17 in hornady brass gives me great accuracy and speed with the 147s.
Work up to that load
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Reloader 16 when available, otherwise H4350.
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I focus on H4350, RL17, and IMR 4451. With lighter bullets I sneak some H414 into the mix. 4451 is one of the forgotten powders. I have enough of it to load the 500 147’s in the stash.
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ELD-M I would not recommend as a hunting.... been there done that
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41.0 gr of RL17 in hornady brass gives me great accuracy and speed with the 147s.
Work up to that load 41.4 worked awesome in my last rifle. As D270 said, work up. This was in Alpha brass.
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ELD-M I would not recommend as a hunting.... been there done that It is serious deer fetching at 6.5 CM speeds. Never caught one in a bunch of deer.
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I focus on H4350, RL17, and IMR 4451. With lighter bullets I sneak some H414 into the mix. 4451 is one of the forgotten powders. I have enough of it to load the 500 147’s in the stash. I’d bet you’ll find a load that hammers with IMR4451 or H4350. Both have been excellent in several 6.5CMs I’ve owned.
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ELD-M I would not recommend as a hunting.... been there done that IME, it performs great at Creedmoor speeds. I’ve taken a few elk and deer with the combo, and it has penetrated and killed well.
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ELD-M I would not recommend as a hunting.... been there done that That has not been mine or several folks I hunt with experience at all. At least concerning the 147 6.5 bullet. We have shot a bunch of deer with them out of 6.5 creedmoors. The only time I've kept one in a deer was by shoulder shooting a buck inside 200 yards with a 6.5 prc.
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Take this for what it is worth.....and I know my experience with the 147s isn't what a lot of folks here have reported. These were from 2 separate lots and out of my 8 twist 6.5x284, so I am assuming they were going a touch bit faster than a 6.5 Creed.
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Take this for what it is worth.....and I know my experience with the 147s isn't what a lot of folks here have reported. These were from 2 separate lots and out of my 8 twist 6.5x284, so I am assuming they were going a touch bit faster than a 6.5 Creed. I still wonder why they sucked so much for you T. That is a truly unstable bullet.
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Same rifle that I have had very bad experiences with 140 Berger Hunting VLDs and elk shoulders---though I have never had one blow up like that at the muzzle. The rifle however does fine with the 135 Berger Classics.
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I wonder if what it is? Maybe jacket thickness. Or a rough throat. Either or, you’re hammering cool stuff with the 135’s so drive on Sarge
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Same rifle that I have had very bad experiences with 140 Berger Hunting VLDs and elk shoulders---though I have never had one blow up like that at the muzzle. The rifle however does fine with the 135 Berger Classics. cut or button rifled barrel?
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ELD-M I would not recommend as a hunting.... been there done that It is serious deer fetching at 6.5 CM speeds. Never caught one in a bunch of deer. Never used the 147’s but the 140 eld-m has been stellar from a friend’s 6.5cm on deer and hogs.
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Same rifle that I have had very bad experiences with 140 Berger Hunting VLDs and elk shoulders---though I have never had one blow up like that at the muzzle. The rifle however does fine with the 135 Berger Classics. cut or button rifled barrel? Lilja barrel, so I believe button rifled. This situation has been hashed out on this forum before...and a conclusion never really came up. Burns' is the one who initially made me think it may be my particular barrel, and it may very well be. It is just odd that it shoots the 135 Berger Classic just fine, as well as a few other bullets like the 140 AMAX. The rifle had about 1000 rounds through it when I tried those 147s, so I am assuming any rough spots would have been lapped out. I dunno...
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Ted, I know you have had issues with that rifle but I still believe there is something going on with your particular barrel.
There are just too many guys, myself included, that have had great performance out of the 140 bergers and the 147 elds.
I wonder how your rifle would do with 139 scenars. They are definitely stout.
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Ted, I know you have had issues with that rifle but I still believe there is something going on with your particular barrel.
There are just too many guys, myself included, that have had great performance out of the 140 bergers and the 147 elds.
I wonder how your rifle would do with 139 scenars. They are definitely stout. Good morning! I have 400 of those 139 Lapuas ready to roll once I am done with the 120 or so 135 Berger classics I have left. I hunt way more than I shoot though so it may be a while. FWIW, the 135s blew clean through a big bull caribou and a mid sized grizzly this year. One even took out the far shoulder on the caribou and kept on sailing. We’re kind of getting into the weeds with this though and away from the OP.
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