Home Forums Hunting & Shooting AR and Tactical Rifles Thoughts on the 6mm offerings?

We have had the 6x45, 6mm AR & 6mm AR turbo Then the Sammi 6mm ARC & 6mm Max. What is & will make sense going forward? Suppose we may do this in two diffrent schools. First for the AR 15 in various barrel lengths. Then Mini bolt action deserve a look as well in various barrel lengths as well, IMHO .

The 6WOA would be the best of the bunch, if they had better support. Meaning fast twist barrels and better die set offerings. Because of that, the 6x45 is the easy button.

6ARC by fhuqking Light Years. The 6WOA is a Goat Fhuqk and 6x45 is no joy in a Krunchenticker,with any GOOD bullet. Hint.

Poor poor(literally) BullSchitArtist is still trying to get 108's and the like,in her upper. Hint.



Same goes the Howie Mini. Hint.




Just sayin'......................

It looks like a 16" 6mmARC AR with a short can could make a good little knockaround rifle for the SxS (currently using an 18" 5.56). MV should be 2500-ish with the 108s? How far out might somebody expect to see fair expansion on 100-250lb animals?

drew the line with mine at 500 yards

With the 16" barrel I would be more conservative. 250 maybe 300 yards would be my upper limit on 250ish lb critters. YMMV

Hint.................

Stick,

2700 fps with a 112 in a Creed?

2700fps in a 19" 6 ARC. Hint.








My 20" Seex Kreed's like to be knockin' on the 3000fps door,with 112's. Hint.





The ARC is a wicked fhuqker. Hint................

I am considering a rebuild on my White Oak 204 Ruger AR to a 6ARC. I will probably give the 204 a workout again first. I have not fired it in years, and I have hundreds of bullets for it. It may still be a keeper. The 6 ARC should be way more useful however.

Of all the AR15 Friendly 6mm's the 6 ARC would be my pick for a number of reasons. The 6 ARC's advantage's, you can buy factory 6 ARC Brass (Big Deal), Standard Reloading Dies are available (Also a Big Deal), you can buy Barrels either custom or off the shelf as reasonable as any other Barrel. It should run 100% on quality 6.5 Grendel Magazines that are easy to locate. And I believe it is here to stay. It should have support down the road. I have a 22 Nosler, and I would not count on finding Brass 10 years from now. I have faith the 6 ARC Brass will be available down the road.

If I were to start the conversion from 204 Ruger to 6 ARC all I would do is order a Compass Lake 6 ARC Barrel using a Douglas Barrel Blank. I would send them a new 6.5 Grendel Bolt to fit to the barrel. Buy Magazines, Brass, and Dies, and start reloading for it. I have thought this over, and done some research on that very possible project.

Bob R

Expect it wont be long & the 6mm MAX may be fairly standard. Not needing a alternate bolt could be seen as an advantage for some. If you have your heart set on heavy bullets like the 105's & up, then the 6mm ARC may be more favorable for those applications. If you are not in a hurry I'd consider waiting to see how the 6mm max plays out in the market.

I think the 6arc is great except there really is a gap in the powder lineup IMO. Need an another temp resistant powder option that gets better velocity . 8208 and varget are a bit slower velocity than optimum, and I don’t want to deal with lever or CFE.

It’s not enough to bother me too much, I just load 8208xbr, my kid shot her first animal (pronghorn) at 300yds and watched it drop in the scope. Low recoil is great. It was 95deg F, hence the 8208 choice.

That's my problem with the gas gun data at this point. Nothing really there that's suitable for my uses. My howa mini will get plenty of love with 95-100 gr hunting bullets and benchmark, I can throw it in the truck year round and never worry about it. The temp sensitive powders concern me enough that I won't pull the rifles loaded with it out of the safe in the summer.

What is there to deal with with lever?

Zackly.

Temp resistant and meters well. What’s not to like?

If Lever is temp resistant, that is news to me. I understood it to be the opposite.

Have you chrono’d ammo in different temps? What kind of velocity changes in 6arc should I expect with a 108 between 30-100deg F?