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I think this is good news. I understand that many of these children will face hardships and challenges. But having a chance at life is better than the certainty of abortion.

Here are the links to the article and the study. The study is a 60+ page pdf I didn't copy. Anyone can read it in depth for themselves.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/overturning-roe-v-wade-32000-additional-births-study-finds

https://docs.iza.org/dp16608.pdf

Overturning of Roe v. Wade led to 32,000 additional births, study finds
Births rose by an average 2.3 percent post-Roe v. Wade, study found

By Kendall Tietz Fox News


Since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade in June 2022, at least 30,000 babies have been born that would have otherwise been aborted, according to a new study published this month.

The 32,000 babies were born in states that enacted some form of abortion restriction, according to the study conducted by the Institute of Labor Economics that looked at the effects of the U.S. Supreme Court decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, which returned the issue of abortion to the states.

"Our primary analysis indicates that in the first six months of 2023, births rose by an average of 2.3 percent in states enforcing total abortion bans compared to a control group of states where abortion rights remained protected, amounting to approximately 32,000 additional annual births resulting from abortion bans," according to the study.

The trio of researchers who conducted the study said the shift represented the "most profound transformation of the landscape of U.S. abortion access in 50 years," based on preliminary births data from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

"As of November 1, 2023, 14 states are enforcing bans on abortion in nearly all circumstances, and 23 percent of U.S. women of reproductive age have experienced an increase in driving distance to the nearest abortion facility, from an average of 43 miles one-way before Dobbs to 330 miles at present," the study found.

But, Kristan Hawkins, the president of Students for Life of America, told the New York Times that the research indicated a "triumph that pro-life policies result in lives saved."

"The insinuation of a lot of coverage of such data points is that it’s a bad thing for there to be more children welcomed in states with better laws than in states that fast-track abortion," she said.

Alison Gemmill, an assistant professor at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, in contrast, told CNN that the new numbers indicated "an assault on reproductive autonomy."

"We don’t always detect signals in these population aggregates because there’s a lot of variation when you group everybody together," she said. "The fact that there is a signal at the population level means that something’s really going on. It’s pretty strong evidence," because fertility rates, or the number of births per women of reproductive age, don’t typically change dramatically.

The authors of the study argued that evidence suggests "diminished abortion access poses a risk to the health and financial stability of this vulnerable population."

"In 2020, approximately 1 in 5 pregnancies ended in abortion," the study said. "At the time they seek abortions, 75 percent of patients are low-income, 59 percent have previously given birth, and 55 percent report a recent disruptive life event such as falling behind on the rent or losing a job."

The findings provided a detailed look at the implications of the Supreme Court’s landmark decision last year.

The effects on abortion were "especially large" for Hispanic women and women ages 20 to 24 with results indicating that birth rates increased by an average 4.7% and 3.3% respectively. In addition, based on the geography of abortion restrictions that made interstate travel more costly, the percentages went up 4.4% in Mississippi and 5.1% in Texas.


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Good. We should be able to close the border now, not needing artificial influx?

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Originally Posted by Osky
Good. We should be able to close the border now, not needing artificial influx?

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Just more unwanted children born into poverty that the tax payers will end up supporting, plus the abortion issue is likely to prompt moderate Republican women who support a woman's right to have an elective abortion to vote against conservative Republican candidates.

Women with the financial means will still get abortions 'cause they can afford to travel to States that allow it.

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IMO the government should not be involved in abortion. It is a personal, moral and religious issue for which you have to answer to a higher power. Choices have consequences.

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IMO the government should not be involved in abortion. It is a personal, moral and religious issue for which you have to answer to a higher power. Choices have consequences.

Sad but true.


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Your “taxes” probably are paying more out to Wabigoon’s book keeping and applied for subsidies, direct payments and crop failures in one year versus what you perceive your whole working life’s taxes have went for towards abortions and feeding poor children that you feel didn’t deserved a chance at life.

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Originally Posted by 260Remguy
Just more unwanted children born into poverty that the tax payers will end up supporting, plus the abortion issue is likely to prompt moderate Republican women who support a woman's right to have an elective abortion to vote against conservative Republican candidates.

Women with the financial means will still get abortions 'cause they can afford to travel to States that allow it.

75% of abortions are to "low income" women.

Democrats are putting abortion issues on the 2024 ballot to bring out their base.

This is the issue that could cost Trump the White House in 2024, and it won't help us in the House or Senate.


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Let’s just hope those 32,000 babies don’t grow up and vote for the Socialist Demoncrats, but if the 75% figure is correct, that’s probably a forlorn hope….


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Originally Posted by 260Remguy
Just more unwanted children born into poverty that the tax payers will end up supporting, plus the abortion issue is likely to prompt moderate Republican women who support a woman's right to have an elective abortion to vote against conservative Republican candidates.

Women with the financial means will still get abortions 'cause they can afford to travel to States that allow it.

We only end up supporting them if elected officials decide to give money to them, or the bearers. That whole progression would end immediately if it were handled correctly and the incentives discontinued.

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Originally Posted by 260Remguy
Just more unwanted children born into poverty that the tax payers will end up supporting, plus the abortion issue is likely to prompt moderate Republican women who support a woman's right to have an elective abortion to vote against conservative Republican candidates.

Women with the financial means will still get abortions 'cause they can afford to travel to States that allow it.

Pretty much my thoughts.


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I am pro life but the thought has crossed my mind about whether or not all babies go to heaven when they die. If they do, and that is my opinion, am I really correct in my thinking.


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Originally Posted by Pappy348
Let’s just hope those 32,000 babies don’t grow up and vote for the Socialist Demoncrats, but if the 75% figure is correct, that’s probably a forlorn hope….

On the plus side, in aboutn15 years there will be more "youths" the campfire can bitch and post monkey pictures about.


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Originally Posted by Pappy348
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Good. We should be able to close the border now, not needing artificial influx?

Osky

Yup
Not if you plan on starting a war and need the manpower. The next 12 months are going to be very intense.

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Originally Posted by Osky
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
Just more unwanted children born into poverty that the tax payers will end up supporting, plus the abortion issue is likely to prompt moderate Republican women who support a woman's right to have an elective abortion to vote against conservative Republican candidates.

Women with the financial means will still get abortions 'cause they can afford to travel to States that allow it.

We only end up supporting them if elected officials decide to give money to them, or the bearers. That whole progression would end immediately if it were handled correctly and the incentives discontinued.

Osky

As always, "Follow the money." If they continue to be paid to have babies, they will continue to have babies... Turn off the welfare gravy train. See how fast the number of "unplanned, single mother," births starts dropping. The wailing and gnashing of teeth from the Liberal Left would be deafening. But, nothing else will stop the trend.



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Originally Posted by Jahrs
I am pro life but the thought has crossed my mind about whether or not all babies go to heaven when they die. If they do, and that is my opinion, am I really correct in my thinking.

Let me turn that on its head a bit. A pastor I once sat under once opined from the pulpit that it's a waste to feed starving children in foreign lands because they're just gonna die and go to Hell anyway. I presume he meant if they survived to the “age of accountability”, but he didn’t say it. That “calling” sure attracts some doozys.


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Every life deserves a chance.

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Every life deserves a chance.

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If abortions were easy to get in 1945, I am pretty sure I wouldn't be here, given what I'm told about my parents.


Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.

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