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Has anyone been able to find any? I've really struggled to find some.

My local Sportsman's Warehouse has had it in stock for a while. They have quite a bit of it. Northern California.

Yes it’s expensive

$70-90 a can. No thanks

Plus it is an eight ounce can now instead of 10

Two "Dang it"s in this post.

Its been so hard to find for 3 years or more for me. Now i feel im priced out of the market…. Whats the next best alternative??

Triple 7

Regular Black Power. It doesn't degrade like 777 or Pyrodex and kills just as well

Believe most Scheels stores have Blackhorn the last few months for the bargain price of 10 bucks an ounce.

I found a can at a Walmart recently on clearance for 40 bucks.

The Walmart that used to carry it hasn't had any. Last I bought in a sporting goods store was 55.00. Used 777 before 209. When my 209 is gone will be looking for an alternative. White Hots maybe? Has anyone tried Shooters World? See they have a pellet form.

If I have it right, Shooters World BP sub is repackaged American Pioneer Powder. I bought several pounds of the loose version when it was sold as Alliant Black MZ. It. was closed out at Sportsmans Warehouse for about $10 per pound. If Blackhorn doesn't come back to a reasonable price, I will go back to real black powder.

The problem is getting real Black Powder. No store carries it anymore around here.

Real BP or Pyrodex. Pyrodex is still pretty easy to find online. PV and Graf still get the real stuff in sometimes.


Daaaamn. Makes me glad I picked up a stash back when it was still $40/10oz. ☠️ I thought that was bad...

If you live in a state where you can use smokeless powder MLs, it’s well worth it to get into that game. Performance and price compared to BH209

I hunt in IL and MI so use smokeless in IL and use BH in MI same gun

I bought some at Scheels last month at 160.00 a pound...As I am getting back into MZ, this stuff better be the cat's ass.

It's good stuff but it's not worth that kinda money. When it hit $70 I went my back to loose 777.

It's a 9 day elk season here for MZ. So I figure I have at least the rest of the decade's worth of BH, that's of course if I draw, and the wolves haven't eaten everything. BorLoc's were 35 bucks for 15. Not too long ago that was a half gallon of semi-decent whiskey. Between licensing, gas, groceries, and a place to stay, this elk hunting thing is spendy.

Was in Scheels last week, whole shelf full at $40 / 10 oz bottle. More than I'd like to spend, but probably reasonable enough I'll go back and pickup a couple containers.

I bought a 5 lb sealed jug of BH209. Way more than I'll ever use. I'd be willing to sell a full pound for $100. I'll have to repackage. I live in southeast PA. Due to shipping restrictions, it will have to be an in-person transaction.

I did too, for about $250 shipped IIRC. I have enough projectiles of this sort and that to use it up and I will. Probably need to pick up some more 209s at some point.

It doesn't shoot any better than any of the others for me, it just gives good velocity and cleans up super easy with regular smokeless solvents. The cleanup is the only real reason I use it.

Use hot primers, or you'll be in for a bad time with fizzles and hangfires. I had to switch from CCI to Win 209s to get it to reliably ignite in cold weather.

Where does a guy find 209 primers? The CCI magnum, Fed 209A, and Winchester are the best for Blackhorn but try finding some of those primers somewhere. It's impossible. The various muzzleloader primers are available and the Cheddite primers but they won't reliable fire Blackhorn.

Yeah, they are definitely not easy to come by these days.

I used Cheddites in the absence of any other brand and never had a problem with them lighting Blackhorn. The problem with Cheddites is that they are very easily pierced. If I wasn't able to find Federals, I would have stuck with Cheddites. Other than piercing, they lit everything I tried to set off with them.

I read some chronograph results comparing Cheddite vs Winchester with Blackhorn. The Winchester primer velocity was higher and much more consistent than the Cheddite primer loads. On one occasion the Cheddite didn't ignite the powder. The powder popped off with the second Cheddite primer. The results of that test caused me to not trust the Cheddite primers for Blackhorn powder.

Magnum shotgun primers are plentiful around here
Kenneth

All I can say is that I've shot more than a few Cheddites in in-lines loaded with Blackhorn and they went boom 100% of the time, without any abnormal delay. However, my Traditions Pursuit XT would pierce the Cheddites nearly 100% of the time. My Knight about 50% of the time. The dents in Federal 209As and Federal 209MLs (when shooting 777) looked normal out of the same guns - none pierced. It was so bad in my Traditions, that I put a musket cap firing pin in it to keep from piercing the Cheddites. That actually worked well. Now that I'm just shooting Federal 209As, I've gone back to the 209 firing pin.

But I do agree with you. Cheddites are problematic. For me it was the black holes in them after getting struck.

I've since sold my Knight, and only have my Traditions. I sold all my Blackhorn and only shoot real BP now. When I sold my Blackhorn powder, I gave the guy all the Cheddite boxes I had left.

I don't know where that is but I would love to buy 200-300 .

Finding BH209 is no easy task either! I passed on some @ Scheels last week in CO as I hadn’t purchased a muzzleloader yet. Now I have one on the way and can’t find any Buckhorn in the Houston area to feed it with.

I think federal will put blackhorn back on the market under a new name this . Possibly triple 8 . Take one of those shells that they made for the teaditions muzzleloader with triple8 apart and compare it to blackhorn. Looks like the same thing

49 bucks at walmart, in arkansas. there was several left.

last year this time i got 5 jugs for 39$...

Don't discount good old Goex black powder.

The newer containers are also 8oz instead of 10 like they used to be 💀 Not sure exactly when that happened. Runnings got a few here last month, but they were gone the next time I stopped in about a week later.

I’ve never seen any muzzleloader supplies at a Walmart in TX. I haven’t specifically looked until
recently, but if I have cause to have to go in one I usually check out the ammo. Most near me
don’t even sell firearms anymore. I believe their is an app that will tell you what stores have an item in stock if you enter the SKU. Anyone with some Walmart BH209 care to share the SKU?

I was told to use fiochhi primers with bh209 the were a hot primer never had a miss fire yet.

Walmart is real weird on ML stuff; around here none of them in IL carry any. Just over the line in IN some of them stock it, and some don't 🤷‍♂️