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I inherited a tractor and a swather! Well then, you have done very well for yourself. That is a good thing, be proud of it. Not really. It's no guarantee yet. Not many homesteads make the generational switch here. We are trying. I pray you are successful and one or more of the kids take it over. Nationally, the family farm is dying or dead. After what's coming, there'll be a resurgence. But whether we are alive to see it is very much doubtful. The operations I referenced are mostly family owned. They aren’t dying. They are consolidating by various methods. Marriages, some kids don’t want to do it, etc. Still family owned, at least here.
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I'm afraid to go see the doctor, probably gonna say lower your blood pressure, quit drinking and start wearing sunscreen!
As you guys know we have no kids and it's really showing now with the grunt work around here. So much general maintenance on the 'corrals', that my brother and I did as kids, is not getting done by my lazy ass.....lol
And my 74 year old dad wants to get cow numbers back up and buy 50 head of black baldy heifers, or really get wild and buy bred heifers.
He said what do you think of that?
I said we need help. Buy high and sell low! We could no doubt solve each other's problems Sam. Crazy we can't figure out stuff on our own operations.
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I inherited a tractor and a swather! Well then, you have done very well for yourself. That is a good thing, be proud of it. Not really. It's no guarantee yet. Not many homesteads make the generational switch here. We are trying. I pray you are successful and one or more of the kids take it over. Nationally, the family farm is dying or dead. After what's coming, there'll be a resurgence. But whether we are alive to see it is very much doubtful. The operations I referenced are mostly family owned. They aren’t dying. They are consolidating by various methods. Marriages, some kids don’t want to do it, etc. Still family owned, at least here. Well...everybody has a family. Even Warren Buffet.
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Sunscreen, and keep the neck covered, I had melanoma.
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If Gates et al really had the best interest of the nation at heart, he'd split up all the farm land he bought into appropriate for the area plots and sell/donate to families. Set up the infrastructure to cater to the small farms like it used to be and take the short term loss.
If the families there are burnt out, there are plenty in the cities or 'burbs that'd jump on it. From what I know of Gates’s holdings, it is mostly “pretty” ranch land. If he sells it, another billionaire will buy it. Would be nice if local operators could lease it.
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I inherited a tractor and a swather! Well then, you have done very well for yourself. That is a good thing, be proud of it. Not really. It's no guarantee yet. Not many homesteads make the generational switch here. We are trying. I pray you are successful and one or more of the kids take it over. Nationally, the family farm is dying or dead. After what's coming, there'll be a resurgence. But whether we are alive to see it is very much doubtful. The operations I referenced are mostly family owned. They aren’t dying. They are consolidating by various methods. Marriages, some kids don’t want to do it, etc. Still family owned, at least here. Well...everybody has a family. Even Warren Buffet. Yep, plenty of family net worths moving over $10mm. Thus my original post.
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I inherited a tractor and a swather! Well then, you have done very well for yourself. That is a good thing, be proud of it. Not really. It's no guarantee yet. Not many homesteads make the generational switch here. We are trying. I pray you are successful and one or more of the kids take it over. Nationally, the family farm is dying or dead. After what's coming, there'll be a resurgence. But whether we are alive to see it is very much doubtful. The operations I referenced are mostly family owned. They aren’t dying. They are consolidating by various methods. Marriages, some kids don’t want to do it, etc. Still family owned, at least here. Where Im from in PA it's dying. Where I lived on the hi-line by Jim it's dying. Being bought out by the neighbor who already owns half the county. It's all about big. Grain farming is a scam in my very humble opinion. At least on scale where I have seen it.
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After what's coming, there'll be a resurgence. What do you think that will be? From my perspective, the sort of farming that produces boomerfood is losing ground and will one day no longer be the dominant archetype. The model that produces the cheapest possible thing that can legally be labeled as food, regardless of how much nutrition has been stripped out of it or how many hormones and antibiotics are in it. Some combination of people no longer eating garbage and the increasing difficulty of externalizing the costs will kill it. Maybe. Not a chance. I'm an optimist.
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I'm afraid to go see the doctor, probably gonna say lower your blood pressure, quit drinking and start wearing sunscreen!
As you guys know we have no kids and it's really showing now with the grunt work around here. So much general maintenance on the 'corrals', that my brother and I did as kids, is not getting done by my lazy ass.....lol
And my 74 year old dad wants to get cow numbers back up and buy 50 head of black baldy heifers, or really get wild and buy bred heifers.
He said what do you think of that?
I said we need help. I have a son that likes video games too much….
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I inherited a tractor and a swather! Well then, you have done very well for yourself. That is a good thing, be proud of it. Not really. It's no guarantee yet. Not many homesteads make the generational switch here. We are trying. I pray you are successful and one or more of the kids take it over. Nationally, the family farm is dying or dead. After what's coming, there'll be a resurgence. But whether we are alive to see it is very much doubtful. The operations I referenced are mostly family owned. They aren’t dying. They are consolidating by various methods. Marriages, some kids don’t want to do it, etc. Still family owned, at least here. Well...everybody has a family. Even Warren Buffet. Yep, plenty of family net worths moving over $10mm. Thus my original post. When do you stop calling it a family farm?
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After what's coming, there'll be a resurgence. What do you think that will be? From my perspective, the sort of farming that produces boomerfood is losing ground and will one day no longer be the dominant archetype. The model that produces the cheapest possible thing that can legally be labeled as food, regardless of how much nutrition has been stripped out of it or how many hormones and antibiotics are in it. Some combination of people no longer eating garbage and the increasing difficulty of externalizing the costs will kill it. Maybe. Not a chance. I'm an optimist. We are really trying here. People like cheap food and Wall Street profits. Hard to compete against that.
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After what's coming, there'll be a resurgence. What do you think that will be? From my perspective, the sort of farming that produces boomerfood is losing ground and will one day no longer be the dominant archetype. The model that produces the cheapest possible thing that can legally be labeled as food, regardless of how much nutrition has been stripped out of it or how many hormones and antibiotics are in it. Some combination of people no longer eating garbage and the increasing difficulty of externalizing the costs will kill it. Maybe. I've (literally) bet my farm on it. If I had to go back to growing heads for Cargill or Tyson or whatever conglomerate processor, I'd go get a J.O.B. somewhere.
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I inherited a tractor and a swather! Well then, you have done very well for yourself. That is a good thing, be proud of it. Not really. It's no guarantee yet. Not many homesteads make the generational switch here. We are trying. I pray you are successful and one or more of the kids take it over. Nationally, the family farm is dying or dead. After what's coming, there'll be a resurgence. But whether we are alive to see it is very much doubtful. Hey! The doctor said I don't have the diabeetus today. I have everything else....but not the 'beetus yet. Might make 50 yet! Relax. We got drugs for whatever ails ya. P
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I inherited a tractor and a swather! Well then, you have done very well for yourself. That is a good thing, be proud of it. Not really. It's no guarantee yet. Not many homesteads make the generational switch here. We are trying. I pray you are successful and one or more of the kids take it over. Nationally, the family farm is dying or dead. After what's coming, there'll be a resurgence. But whether we are alive to see it is very much doubtful. The operations I referenced are mostly family owned. They aren’t dying. They are consolidating by various methods. Marriages, some kids don’t want to do it, etc. Still family owned, at least here. Well...everybody has a family. Even Warren Buffet. Yep, plenty of family net worths moving over $10mm. Thus my original post. I have to look up exact tax laws at this time but that's where you start running into issues how you leave it to the next generation because some of the tax laws are so severe they're pretty much paying for half of it again..
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After what's coming, there'll be a resurgence. What do you think that will be? From my perspective, the sort of farming that produces boomerfood is losing ground and will one day no longer be the dominant archetype. The model that produces the cheapest possible thing that can legally be labeled as food, regardless of how much nutrition has been stripped out of it or how many hormones and antibiotics are in it. Some combination of people no longer eating garbage and the increasing difficulty of externalizing the costs will kill it. Maybe. I've (literally) bet my farm on it. If I had to go back to growing heads for Cargill or Tyson or whatever conglomerate processor, I'd go get a J.O.B. somewhere. You would be fùcked without good publicity/branding/marketing. Same as us. It's tenuous.
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Jim, all kinds of work and opportunity to expand around here but as you know easier said than done.
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I inherited a tractor and a swather! Well then, you have done very well for yourself. That is a good thing, be proud of it. Not really. It's no guarantee yet. Not many homesteads make the generational switch here. We are trying. I pray you are successful and one or more of the kids take it over. Nationally, the family farm is dying or dead. After what's coming, there'll be a resurgence. But whether we are alive to see it is very much doubtful. The operations I referenced are mostly family owned. They aren’t dying. They are consolidating by various methods. Marriages, some kids don’t want to do it, etc. Still family owned, at least here. Well...everybody has a family. Even Warren Buffet. Yep, plenty of family net worths moving over $10mm. Thus my original post. When do you stop calling it a family farm? I don’t know. Still mostly family operated. That is only 5000 acres in western ND now, maybe only 500 acres in the Red River Valley out by Fargo.
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I inherited a tractor and a swather! Well then, you have done very well for yourself. That is a good thing, be proud of it. Not really. It's no guarantee yet. Not many homesteads make the generational switch here. We are trying. I pray you are successful and one or more of the kids take it over. Nationally, the family farm is dying or dead. After what's coming, there'll be a resurgence. But whether we are alive to see it is very much doubtful. The operations I referenced are mostly family owned. They aren’t dying. They are consolidating by various methods. Marriages, some kids don’t want to do it, etc. Still family owned, at least here. Well...everybody has a family. Even Warren Buffet. Yep, plenty of family net worths moving over $10mm. Thus my original post. I have to look up exact tax laws at this time but that's where you start running into issues how you leave it to the next generation because some of the tax laws are so severe they're pretty much paying for half of it again.. Very good question and I think there is like a $10mm level on what can be passed on without inheritance taxes. I am not an estate planner. Seems that an easy solution would be a cheap price on contract for deed.
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After what's coming, there'll be a resurgence. What do you think that will be? From my perspective, the sort of farming that produces boomerfood is losing ground and will one day no longer be the dominant archetype. The model that produces the cheapest possible thing that can legally be labeled as food, regardless of how much nutrition has been stripped out of it or how many hormones and antibiotics are in it. Some combination of people no longer eating garbage and the increasing difficulty of externalizing the costs will kill it. Maybe. I think the country as we know it now is going to burn to the ground, and out of the ashes I HOPE we will come back stronger and better. But in the mean time, after the fall it'll be a lot of subsistence farming. If I allow myself to optimistic, then from that will grow community based economics.
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