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Farming, or ranching is a business, and a way of life.
These premises insured by a Sheltie in Training ,--- and Cooey.o "May the Good Lord take a likin' to you"
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My brother is the fourth generation in our family to run the farm that our great grandfather started in the 1890s. He’s about 68 years old and winding down the amount he leases and the size of the cattle operation. He never had any sons and his son in laws have great jobs and no interest in farming. I guess he’ll be the last in our family to run the farm.
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After what's coming, there'll be a resurgence. What do you think that will be? From my perspective, the sort of farming that produces boomerfood is losing ground and will one day no longer be the dominant archetype. The model that produces the cheapest possible thing that can legally be labeled as food, regardless of how much nutrition has been stripped out of it or how many hormones and antibiotics are in it. Some combination of people no longer eating garbage and the increasing difficulty of externalizing the costs will kill it. Maybe. I've (literally) bet my farm on it. If I had to go back to growing heads for Cargill or Tyson or whatever conglomerate processor, I'd go get a J.O.B. somewhere. You would be fùcked without good publicity/branding/marketing. Same as us. It's tenuous. Absolutely, for sure. That's why we control the product all the way down the distribution channel to the retailer. It's a lot of work, investment and risk, but life is better as a price setter than a price taker.
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After what's coming, there'll be a resurgence. What do you think that will be? From my perspective, the sort of farming that produces boomerfood is losing ground and will one day no longer be the dominant archetype. The model that produces the cheapest possible thing that can legally be labeled as food, regardless of how much nutrition has been stripped out of it or how many hormones and antibiotics are in it. Some combination of people no longer eating garbage and the increasing difficulty of externalizing the costs will kill it. Maybe. I've (literally) bet my farm on it. If I had to go back to growing heads for Cargill or Tyson or whatever conglomerate processor, I'd go get a J.O.B. somewhere. You would be fùcked without good publicity/branding/marketing. Same as us. It's tenuous. Absolutely, for sure. That's why we control the product all the way down the distribution channel to the retailer. It's a lot of work, investment and risk, but life is better as a price setter than a price taker. Wink
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It's not the system, it's the handful of "families" that pull the strings.
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I've been watching his videos from awhile back . He is involved in a pretty big lawsuit with a grain bin construction company
have you paid your dues, can you moan the blues, can you bend them guitar strings
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It's not the system, it's the handful of "families" that pull the strings. I'm talking about the 'technical' commodity trading done on Wall Street, and the packers!
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People like cheap food and Wall Street profits.
Hard to compete against that. People will eat $0.99 bologna made from gopher dicks... AND... Be happy in the pennies they saved. --------------------------- My old boxing coach told me when I was 18... "Your fellow man is a fool to avoided..." I have never forgotten...
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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After what's coming, there'll be a resurgence. What do you think that will be? From my perspective, the sort of farming that produces boomerfood is losing ground and will one day no longer be the dominant archetype. The model that produces the cheapest possible thing that can legally be labeled as food, regardless of how much nutrition has been stripped out of it or how many hormones and antibiotics are in it. Some combination of people no longer eating garbage and the increasing difficulty of externalizing the costs will kill it. Maybe. Not a chance. I'm an optimist. We are really trying here. People like cheap food and Wall Street profits. Hard to compete against that. I appreciate your sticking your neck out to do the right thing and for whatever it is worth, we buy nearly everything from people doing the same.
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After what's coming, there'll be a resurgence. What do you think that will be? From my perspective, the sort of farming that produces boomerfood is losing ground and will one day no longer be the dominant archetype. The model that produces the cheapest possible thing that can legally be labeled as food, regardless of how much nutrition has been stripped out of it or how many hormones and antibiotics are in it. Some combination of people no longer eating garbage and the increasing difficulty of externalizing the costs will kill it. Maybe. I've (literally) bet my farm on it. If I had to go back to growing heads for Cargill or Tyson or whatever conglomerate processor, I'd go get a J.O.B. somewhere. It has to start somewhere and I like to think that if I were farming I'd do the same. Maybe ahead of your time but it is coming eventually.
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People like cheap food and Wall Street profits.
Hard to compete against that. People will eat $0.99 bologna made from gopher dicks... AND... Be happy in the pennies they saved. --------------------------- My old boxing coach told me when I was 18... "Your fellow man is a fool to avoided..." I have never forgotten... 10-4 on that😂😂😂
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These premises insured by a Sheltie in Training ,--- and Cooey.o "May the Good Lord take a likin' to you"
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You guys want to buy a finished Duroc hog?
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My old boxing coach told me when I was 18...
"Your fellow man is a fool to avoided..."
I have never forgotten... Here's to the fools amongst us. (everyone I know raises a drink....lol)
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You guys want to buy a finished Duroc hog? How much? Fancy would be $500, $350 for the local market.
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In the last few years, we have been selling more of our beef direct. 1/4's,1/2's, & whole animals. We had a lot of positive feedback, but a lot of people don't have room for a 1/2, or can't afford one.
This summer we got our retail sales license. Then had a small building put up, with a walk in freezer. We sell single cuts and "bundles" of beef and pork. It's been a learning curve, but definitely helps.
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My old boxing coach told me when I was 18...
"Your fellow man is a fool to avoided..."
I have never forgotten... Here's to the fools amongst us. (everyone I know raises a drink....lol) Cheers... My Montana Pard...
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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In the last few years, we have been selling more of our beef direct. 1/4's,1/2's, & whole animals. We had a lot of positive feedback, but a lot of people don't have room for a 1/2, or can't afford one.
This summer we got our retail sales license. Then had a small building put up, with a walk in freezer. We sell single cuts and "bundles" of beef and pork. It's been a learning curve, but definitely helps. Hard copy... THAT is the future... The masses will eat crickets... or whatever .GOV decides they should. Gopher dick bologna will be a special weekend treat...
If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.
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