Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles 6.5 Creedmoor vs 6mm Creedmoor?

I see an advantage to the 6mm in recoil, but bullets, BC and terminal effects to the 6.5.

And, although I reload, availability of off the shelf ammo.

Net win to the 6.5? Or am I missing something?

That is the answer to the question. 6.5 Creedmoor factory ammo comes in all flavors imaginable.

I'd say the 6.5 CM is more versatile than the 6mm. And recoil from the 6.5 is pretty low so that factor doesn't matter much for most people.

^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^

If the availability of factory ammo is important, then the 6.5 CM has so many more factory ammo options and is so widely available that it isn't even close. When you can buy multiple varieties of factory ammo at Wal-Mart, you know that that cartridge has achieved mainstream status, ranking right up with long term mainstream cartridges like the 270, 30-30. 308, and 30-06.

The 6.5 CM wins in a lot of arenas: Lower cost ammo, more to chose from, more factory rifles chambered in the 6.5. Where the 6mm wins is with less recoil, and with the right bullets, it wins out over the 6.5 in wind drift. I shoot longrange with a lot of guys that have went from 6.5 to various 6mm's, like the GT for example and they like to brag about how the wind doesn't effect the flight of the bullet. Plus, they are spotting their hits and misses easier. They shoot damn good scores with their 6mm's, so I believe them. Then you have some that have gone 6mm, and then go back to the 6.5 Creedmoor because components were easier to find. Barrel life is also better with the 6.5 vs. a fast 6mm, so that needs to be considered as well.

I think its dependent on the needs of the individual. For me, the 6mm makes more sense. I am a hunter that isn’t comfortable shooting game much past 400 yards. That means my 7mm rifles do anything a 6.5 could do. However, for a light recoiling rifle and the ability to shoot a bit heavier bullet with the proper twist and magazine space, the 6mm CM would be perfect.

6.5 Creedmoor for the win!

The 6 creed recoils less and shoots flatter with its most slippery bullets. There’s nothing I’d shoot with one that I wouldn’t shoot with the other. There’s the ammo availability issue, which for those that prepare well is a non-issue

That’s plenty gun for 70 lb does and spikes, Paul.

If you're shooting at targets at long range the 6mm is the better option. It will kill anything a 243 will kill as a hunting cartridge. But the 6.5 comes pretty close and is by far more versatile as a hunting and target rifle. The 6.5 will kill anything a 270 will kill.

6mm is always niche towards range/steel/target/varmint because it has bullets under 120 grains, even despite fantastic sd/bc and velocities...it's still under 120 gr bullets and many hunters, even highly educated ones speaking fluent ballistics, just prefer 120 grains or more of bullet on the minimum end as a viable big game round...that's the full story, and because of that you see why the factory ammo selections will be better etc. it's just more versatile with the heavier manbun, doesn't matter what cartridge class you discuss, the 6.5 always wins over the niche 6mm

I’ve at least (6) rifles in each chambering. Both are Supersonic with The Good Stuff to 1600yds+. Hint.

Mass is moot and the chatter of Drooling CLUELESS Fhuqks. Hint………..

Both have excellent bullets available for them. I consider them both deer and varmint cartridges so an extra 15 grains of bullet weight doesn't matter to me.

I bought my FC in 6mm because it was what they had, and I already had a bunch of 6mm bullets. Finally killed a couple of deer with it about 10 days ago, and surprise surprise, they died just like they do with similar hits from a .243, .308, .270 etc. Used 95gr LRXs.

I think the lighter recoil might be an advantage in a very light rifle, especially shooting of the bench. The only 6.5 I’ve shot was my son’s Hunter, and it was pretty lively, much more so than my FC. Might need to adjust your technique a bit.

I’d be fine with either.

lol stick, super sonic to 1600 yards is moot and you need to stop projecting your drooling clueless drivel....you're like watching the news, whatever they say, it's the opposite

how many elephants were killed with 6mm? how many moose across the puddle killed with 6.5...no offence but it's easily observable that the line between niche and full blown hunting caliber is between these two, you can 1600 yard supersonic it all you want haha

if it's not expressly stated 'what for' then because this was posted in the 'hunting rifles' section....then the question has been answered, even more definitively in the past few posts lol

get over yer butthurt stick

Wound tracks pretty much same/same compared to those from the other cartridges, as well?

Didn’t check “wound tracks”. Full penetration, naturally, and innards were soup. Exit holes weren’t big. Didn’t process these two, so can’t comment on the amount of jellied meat. Shot was too high on one so he travelled maybe 100 yards, but was bled out inside. The doe’s heart was cut loose and rolled out when I opened her up. She went about 20 yards in full view.

In the past, I’ve had a lot of meat jellied pretty far from the hit by bullet and maybe bone fragments. For whatever deer shooting I’ll do in the future, I plan on using monos or bonded to reduce that. Last four I gunned were with those, and except for that high shot, all went down quickly. 6.5 Grendel, .308, and these two with the 6.

I never have been lucky enough to bag a spike. I do have my taxidermist sitting on ready though.

I've killed multiple deer with a 243 and a 6.5 Swede.


The Swede was a huge disappointment at first.
Some of the bullets others love, left my wanting.
Eventually I followed advice from Sierra engineer.
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The 243 has been used a lot, with bullets from 75 to 100 grain.
It has consistently shown better than the 6.5 with those disappointing bullets.
And been inconsistent itself.


Both are more than capable of killing,
i think it's easier to find my 6.5 shot deer.
(First bullet attempts were marred by several unrecoverable deer)


My thoughts, based on deer, shot in the chest.
DGAFF about brain/spine shots.
They are irrelevant, a 22Mag FMJ is outstanding in that application.

6-CM = .243 Improved

6.5 CM =.270 Improved

Rio7

I have two 6mm CM rifles, I don't have a 6.5mm and don't see a reason to buy one.

I have a 24” bbl 6mm CM and absolutely love it. I have used it for many deer and hogs and it’s great. I really like the 105gr Hybrids. Knowing what I know now, I would have picked a 22” bbl for handling but the gun shoots.

I have 243 Kreed’s in 20,21,22 and 24”. Build for balance/handling and rest assured,that the performance WILL be there. Hint…………..

I have two 6 CM , the 105 berger kills like lightning.

The 105gr. Berger work very well But I go with the 105 Scenar or the 108 Eld-M because I have a bunch of both, tried the 112 gr. Barnes Match Burner when culling Does they were like shooting FMJ , can't recommend them for hunting. Rio7

The .620BC 112 MB has no equal,even in a 20" or two. Hint.






Just saying.....................

I bought a few hundred of those Barnes 112 gr., just to try, guess they'll be mainly target practice or head shots only.
My FC and Ruger are very capable!

Of course you are guessing. The 112's are without peer. Hint.

Fortunately for you,Imagination and Pretend are free,so even YOU can "afford" to "contribute". Hint.




Just saying...................

Appreciate you sharing your experience, Rio. Matchburners will be relegated to paper punchin'.

Every time it’s about the heaviest of possible bullets with high bc and long range. I see the 6mm doing that but also killing called coyotes with 70-80 grain class bullets at 3,500+fps. A true duel purpose. A 112 grain .620 bc 6mm is a fine paper puncher, but offers only one dimensional thought. Open minded folks would include the entire enchilada from light weights to heavies and therefore the 6mm makes more of an all encompassing paper puncher, antelope and deer killer and a fine varmint slayer.

BEST bullet,never doesn't not win and handily. I realize none of you Dumb Fhuqkers actually shoot and I enjoy that oblivious HILARITY. Hint.

I "only" shoot the aforementioned 112's in 6x45,6ARC,243 Grendel,6BR,Kreed',243,243AI,6-284 and Six Twat-Six. Have yet to see them "FMJ",but I shoot wares that actually exist. I'd have zero qualm,up to and including Mooseses. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!....................

BS show us more of your bells and whistles and your kills at extreme distances on big game. Why would I want to shoot a 112 grain .620 bc bullet at a 150 yard called in Nebraska or Kansas coyote? A one dimensional thinker all the way, you should actually get out more and hunt rather than drill paper and inanimate objects. Laughable logic when considering all hunting parameters a firearm can produce due to calibers bullet weight range. Show us how many big game animals have been taken by you at long range with your illustrious 7mm-08 Remington and .760 bc. Show us the expanded bullet at 700 yards of a .760 7mm bullet. You won’t because you can’t. Stick BS to punching paper, stop pontificating on knowing much about killing big game animals, that’s your imagination and pretend. Don’t get hurt feelers.

he keeps sticking his nose in the hunting forums lol, he should just stick to the regular campfire section, not sure one could have enough time to hunt to talk about hunting gear in hunting sections with 57,203 posts lol, fhuqking clueless drooling [bleep]

since this is a 'hunting rifles' public forum one should remember perspective, always caveat 'if you reload then you can add 50% more versatility' but most hunters don't so there's that, isn't there another sub section that the reloaders can go circle jerk in and compare willy sizes? you're discussing topics for general public here, funny how reloaders think majority reload and basically leave most people out of the discussion as soon as they start talking, then poor jimmy gets steered to an obscure cartridge because some drooling clueless fhuqking [bleep] windbag like stick steers him poorly lol, you want these guys choosing the most future proof and reliable to get off the shelf the most places possible options...can't say I've seen any 112 super match whiz bangs loaded up and ready to rock by hornady or federal lol...hint

lmao, best bullet...how bout best range of bullets factory loaded in the most stores in North America? what a jackazz

and to try to keep things on track to the topic and sub section...the cut off line between true big game calibers is 6.5 and up, everything below that line is niche...fill yer boots

Crying CLUELESS Karens,will always find reason(s) to Whine...you "lucky" kchunts. Hint. Congratulations?!?

You Drooling Do NOTHING Dumb Fhuqks are a hoot! Pardon Physics upsetting you so,along with wares that simply exist,as you Pretend aloud. Hint.

As an aside,the .284" ELD-M 180 wears a .796BC. I only shoot same in 7-08,7-08AI,284Win,280,280AI and 7mm RemMags. At least you Fhuqktards "get" to read about it. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!..................

The biggest advantage your 180 ELDMs have over a similar Berger is a generally lower cost, assuming that factors into your requirements...

Boogers are farrrrr more zookie than the 180 ELD M and,can't even begin to match their BC,in a given mass. I muchly prefer ELD M Terminal Effects. Hint.....................

Whoopdy doo. You shoot everything except game animals. Your .760 BC/.796 BC concern shows how clueless you are about the actual commenting and discussion regarding options and various hunting applications. Big Stick, the one trick pony with smoke and mirror photos, but no actual game animals or bullet performance indicators. Laughing hard all the way. Puzzling that you live in Alaska but you don’t hunt, what’s up with that?

It is funnier than fhuqk,that Droolers suffering your “means”,”abilities” and “comprehension” can’t even begin to fhuqking fathom the magnitude. Hint.

Keep extolling your very WELL founded Insecurities,as you “live” vicariously. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!………….

Needs the high BC to penetrate the water to stun the fish in trickle creek. And then he can throw his gun and pole down, and pretend he knows how to fish, as well. LOL

Blowhard blowfart

The only in flight blow ups I've seen have without exception been Hornadys, often in major matches. A false economy for certain. Wind calls and consistent BCs bullet to bullet matter far more at long range than a small calculated advantage.

1st both the 6mm and 6.5 Creedmoor are good cartridges in a rifle . i hunt a little different than many i sit in 8 ft. stand in a tamarac swamp with 100 yd. ,200 ,yard , 300 ,yard , lanes cut by son and i also use a J8 bombadier to keep chit knocked down too. so i never know what distance that buck gives me shot at ,sometimes it could be 50 yards out to 300 yards ,i will get 1 shot the bucks up here in Northern Minnesota are like Canadian whitetail bucks there just much bigger 200 -350 lbs. i know we have killed them. so i use a fast cartridge 257 Weatherby mag. velocity 3700 -3800 FPS there is no time to mess or play around trying to figure out the distance ,you will get 5 - 20 seconds most of the time to shoot or pass on that buck . so i need a bullet that knocks the chit out of that buck and the bullet stays together and not blow apart at close range the bullet brands i have had great success with in my state and out west are these 3 > 100 gr. Nosler Partitions , 100 gr. Swift A-Frames and these newer 103 gr. Hammer Hunter bullets for around the last 20-25 years now with a fast cartridge like 257 Weatherby mag. have had poor luck with 115 gr. Berger hunting bullets they blow up inside animal on the closer shots , yes Berger bullets kill but i hate tracking bucks in a wet nasty swamp. probably in a slower cartridge / smaller buck Berger bullets like in a Creedmoor cartridge are probably fine but where i hunt won`t use them anymore hunting bigger bucks.

I only shoot them expressly in .17,.22,.243,.257,.264 and .284”. Though barely in 100+ barrels. Hint.

There is nothing “small” in their BC advantages. Hint.

Bless your heart for trying though.

Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!………..

bless your heart too , your right in a way i just like Speed . take care Pete53 > its raining and snowing here

Anybody ever use the match burners on game

LOL ...... Nailed it!

You Professional Victims are fhuqking HILARIOUS! Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!………..

Stick states that he does and shoots everything in the head at over 1,000 yds.....

Keep The Hurt Feeler Reports coming ladies and unleash your very WELL founded Brokedick Insecurities,as you Pretend aloud. Hint.

Do not forget,that Imitation is THE most Sincere form of Flattery. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!………

Never know what i am going to shoot here on the ranch, Coyote, Bobcat, Cull Buck,Doe, little Pig, Big Pig, Bigger Pig, I found the Barnes Match Burner 112 gr. out of my 6 CM to be a poor hunting choice from close to far, Accurate as Hell, if you can shoot them in the Ear Hole they work like any FMJ i have never caught one in a critter YMMV. Rio7

Thank you! Answers the question, and I appreciate it.

Sounds like the results with plenty of bigger cartridges alright. The detached heart is wild.

I hunt about exclusively with monos as well.

Not the only time I’ve seen that. Just about perfect from a killing perspective.

Regarding preparedness, I have seen 2 guys who traveled a long way by road to hunt in Colorado only to arrive without any ammo for their rifles.

One guy was going elk hunting near Durango and ended up buying a Remington 710 to hunt with 'cause there wasn't any 7MM Weatherby ammo to be found anywhere near enough for him to have it for the first day of his hunt. I don't know how it worked out for him, but I kind of felt sorry that he had to buy a package gun for what might have been a once in a lifetime hunt.

The other guy was going deer hunting near Wray. Like the guy in Durango, he had a rifle chambered for a cartridge without any ammo available anywhere close by, a 6.5x55. I loaned him my spare rifle, a Husqvarna in 30-06, and he got to punch his tag.

I'm a long time believer in making packing lists and of checking them twice, but stuff happens even to those who have the best intentions. Having a rifle chambered for a common cartridge when things don't go as planned is never a bad idea.

Comes with hitting the big blood vessels just on top leading out of it?

Doesn't get more "turned off" than detached and free floating lol

2 seasons ago I shot a buck with a 7mm-08 at 160 yards, when I opened him up his heart was untouched but attached to nothing, including the great vessels.

Now on my 4th elk with 6mm/243, I find it to be quite capable. A new 6mm CM is in the works.

It appears that y'all are having fun with Little Twig again. I should really take him off ignore so I can enjoy his drunken, psychotic ramblings as he attempts to belittle folks who he knows are more intelligent than himself. And trying to say someone is "poorer" than he is.....while running a chainsaw for a living. 😂😂😂
Sheet, I'd bet many here could afford to buy the whole side of the mountain he lives on. Pfft....

Cool! What bullet have you been shooting elk with?

If complete pass through's are atop your menu,the 112 MB ain't your Huckleberry,if only because that isn't their behavior pattern. Hint.

Admittedly,few things are funnier than a Whining Brokedick,"flaunting" her Imaginary Pretend Ignore...the "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!!

Imitation,remains THE most Sincere form of Flattery. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!.............

Will a 6mm bullet kill a deer?

Only if no one tells it that it was only a 6mm bullet.

One Fed blue box and 3 with Hrdy 100 gr btsp. All but one has been a deer hunt that became an elk hunt. Not uncommon where I am. I’ve shot a few deer with the hrdy 105 btsp and really like that bullet. The rifles is a fast twist 700 18” barrel. The plan is a 6mm CM 20” threaded barrel.

6mm Creedmoor

Well played my friend, well played.

Whats your favorite bullet?

6MM CREEDMOOR ~ 100 GRAIN ~ TGK ~ B.C. .515

Thanks ole buddy. Couldn't resist

6.5 this morning.



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Federal 109 Berger

Barnes 112 MB

Need more let me know.

Some people should read more than they post.

Nice, Sam! Is that a Ridge?

Igloo, yep!

The little sawed off threaded version that is patiently waiting for a suppressor...

Very nice! Those lil short barreled Ridges look great. Must handle pleasantly too.

You must be excited to have the can on it ASAP!

I haven't done much with it yet but it is handier than hell.

The 6 Creed with 105 VLDs has been wrecking game for me in Idaho this fall. Feel guilty I didn’t even touch the .280ai.

The more I shoot and kill, the less bullet I think I “need”.

Dave

Same here, I use the same bullet. Every deer looks like they've been hit with a 150 gr bullet.

They work for elk too

I prefer to think the 6.5 CM to be the best, because that's what I bought! LOL! And I prefer to be on the heavier side of bullets. The only thing I have shot with mine so far is about a 200LB hog. Worked well. Mine is a Tikka T-3 Ultralite 6.5 CM. It shoots Hornady ELD-X 143 Grains into tiny little groups at 100 yards and into very small groups at 200 yards. It shoots much better than I can. I'm not knocking the 6MM CM though. I just have never owned one and probably won't because I'm doing my best not to add any other platforms than what I have. Only so much time in a day, week, year or our lives!

The 105gr VLD is a proven killer that kills way above it's weight class.

yeah the 105vld just kills.

My 6.5-300 Wby works quite well. It pushes harder on my shoulder. Doesn't make me say "ouch."