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The die set arrived yesterday. I bought it (.357 Magnum/.38 Special) used off eBay. It appears to have come with two extra bullet seaters. What is the purpose for the extras? They have heads shaped different from the seater that's installed in the die. Are they especially designed for full wadcutters? Some other kind of bullet? Thanks. Also, they seem identical. Why would I need two identical ones? ![[Linked Image]](https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/gallery/80/full/241317.jpg)
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Yes, the 357,38 have several different bullet profiles that can be used.
Select the one that best fits whatever bullet you are using and load away.
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They don’t look identical to me - one is deeper. Those are for wad cutters, flat nosed, truncated nose. I assume the one for round nose is in the seater die.
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They don’t look identical to me - one is deeper. Those are for wad cutters, flat nosed, truncated nose. I assume the one for round nose is in the seater die. Based on its shape, I'd say that was correct.
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They don’t look identical to me - one is deeper. On second look, you are correct. Hadn't noticed that.
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They are often stamped. RN, SWC, and WC
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They are often stamped. RN, SWC, and WC Nope. No marks. Why is one deeper than the other? What would the deeper one be for vs the more shallow one?
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Deeper for SWC. Other for WC.
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Yep.
Some cast bullets are real soft (WCs) and need good support to avoid being deformed.
A lot of pistol JHP s are soft enough to be deformed too.
I've often had issues with jhp bullets from my ancient RCBS 44 mag dies.
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Deeper for SWC. Other for WC. Thanks.
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They are often stamped. RN, SWC, and WC Nope. No marks. Why is one deeper than the other? What would the deeper one be for vs the more shallow one? Check the diameters. The deeper one looks like a smaller diameter. If so, then that's probably for truncated cone shaped bullets (SWC Keith type). And the shallow one would be for full wadcutter.
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Seating stems answered I think & one you didn't ask about was the ring.
Likely .135"? thick that lets you set your dies to 38 special brass & when ya want to load 357's just use the spacer Without changing die settings. In a single stage of course.
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Seating stems answered I think & one you didn't ask about was the ring.
Likely .135"? thick that lets you set your dies to 38 special brass & when ya want to load 357's just use the spacer Without changing die settings. In a single stage of course. I was wondering about that. Thanks. Yes, I have an old RCBS Rock Chucker II.
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If you want a dedicated seating stem for a certain bullet, you can put some epoxy putty in the stem recess, lightly run a round into the die, after first putting release agent on the bullet. Perfect fit.
Done properly, it prevents marring a soft bullet.
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