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Curious how many consider this when buying.
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I will not buy a Chinese scope. There are simply too many cost and quality competitive non Chinese options.
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Definitely do, Same with tools and other things. If there’s a choice, I’m not buying Chinese made anything.
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I will not buy a Chinese scope. There are simply too many cost and quality competitive non Chinese options. Your lack of support for the Chinese Communist Party will be duly noted on your social credit score.
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Preference is European and free Asian Country optics second. Communist Chinese optics support tyranny, undermine democracy, and help fund abuse of human rights.
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Which scope manufactures can put the “Made in America” label on their box?
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I try to avoid anything made in China.
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Hell! Made in Japan is likely the best way to go now. Ya can't count on the American or European companies to stay in house. Maybe it's not possible,,, for all practical purposes.
Taiwan or the Philippines not actually a bad place of mfr. considering China is last ditch IMO, but so many made there, what to do?
March,,, Nightforce,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Japan. A hell of a thing. It used to mean The J.A. Pan Company.
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I do. I try to only buy American on about everything. Stay away from Phillipine scopes also.
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Mexico has gotta get in the game.
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Are there any "Made in USA" scopes anymore? The "Made in USA" label is protected by the FTC and means that the product and the parts therein are actually made in the USA. "Built in the USA," "Designed in the USA", etc are all nebulous terms that really can mean about anything. Even "Made in USA with Globally Sourced Parts" is not the same as "Made in USA." And what "Made in Philippines" or "Made in Japan" really means is unclear, too. The FTC doesn't control those labels, as far as I know. Unless it says "*Made* in USA", where the components inside of your "Made in China" or "Made in Philippines" scopes comes from is pretty much unknown.
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The reality is you just don't know where all the components in your optics are sourced from. Point of origin. Some say I buy Leupold but Leupold doesn't make lenses and prisms. They source it from Asia like most everyone else.
Zeiss makes plenty of chinesium products but they do own or at least did own Schott Glass Werks. Swarovski and Leica spec out lenses and prisms and apply their proprietary coating on them but don't manufacture "glass", and it's doubtful they manufacture all the internal components either. We just don't have a say when we purchase because none of these companies are going to declare where point of origin concerning their products and what % is sourced from China.
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Curious how many consider this when buying. When I purchase I purchase the product. I leave political bravado to those inclined that way.
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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Curious how many consider this when buying. When I purchase I purchase the product. I leave political bravado to those inclined that way. Slaves bow to their masters. That's how they became slaves.
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Curious how many consider this when buying. When I purchase I purchase the product. I leave political bravado to those inclined that way. Slaves bow to their masters. That's how they became slaves. Is that what the Reupold dealer rep told you lol
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