|
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,556
Campfire Regular
|
OP
Campfire Regular
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,556 |
Gentlemen, I want to build an EDGE on a stainless classic action. I want it to be a repeater. I'm probably going to use 250 grain bullets, either 250 Sierra Game King or 250 Nosler Accubond. There are some of you that know a ton more than I do about this action so I have questions. Is it possible using a factory magazine? Are all the long actions the same? I know it was available in a 300 RUM and I thought about starting with one of those if I can find one, but I have other long action magnums already that I may cannibalize. If I found a 300 RUM I wouldn't want to tear it apart unless I had to.
Give me your thoughts. Thanks
I sure could go for some $2.50/gal gas and a mean tweet!
NRA Benefactor member, disgruntled. Life member: Firearms Owners Against Crime. Life member: GOA Member: RMEF
TRUMP 2020
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 901
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 901 |
Find a RUM action.
I converted a STW action for my 375 RUM and it was a PIA!
I don't know if the Winchester RUM specific mag box is still available and I had a bad experience with a Wyatts box years ago and have avoided them ever since. I think you will need the "windowed" box to get more than two down in the magazine.
And the Overall Length question is another issue.
Winchester rifles and Swarovski scopes.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,556
Campfire Regular
|
OP
Campfire Regular
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,556 |
Find a RUM action.
I converted a STW action for my 375 RUM and it was a PIA!
I don't know if the Winchester RUM specific mag box is still available and I had a bad experience with a Wyatts box years ago and have avoided them ever since. I think you will need the "windowed" box to get more than two down in the magazine.
And the Overall Length question is another issue. What made it a PIA? I guess my main question is what is different from a RUM action than other long magnum actions?
I sure could go for some $2.50/gal gas and a mean tweet!
NRA Benefactor member, disgruntled. Life member: Firearms Owners Against Crime. Life member: GOA Member: RMEF
TRUMP 2020
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 15,307 Likes: 1
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 15,307 Likes: 1 |
You are going to be sinking those long 250's way down deep into the case, unless you have some metalwork completed to get a longer mag in there.
The RUM are wider at the rails, so you'll have less machining starting with a RUM based 70.
I have a 300 RUM now in a 70 Super Grade and hate how limiting it is with even 180's.
Semper Fi
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,556
Campfire Regular
|
OP
Campfire Regular
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,556 |
You are going to be sinking those long 250's way down deep into the case, unless you have some metalwork completed to get a longer mag in there.
The RUM are wider at the rails, so you'll have less machining starting with a RUM based 70.
I have a 300 RUM now in a 70 Super Grade and hate how limiting it is with even 180's. How long is the mag box in your RUM? I assume it's all original, correct? The long action magnums that I have measure approx 3.4". Is the RUM longer?
I sure could go for some $2.50/gal gas and a mean tweet!
NRA Benefactor member, disgruntled. Life member: Firearms Owners Against Crime. Life member: GOA Member: RMEF
TRUMP 2020
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 15,307 Likes: 1
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 15,307 Likes: 1 |
The RUM will take a skosh over 3.6”
Semper Fi
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 901
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 901 |
RUM box is the same length as any other H&H/STW/300Weatherby box. Like beretzs said, about 3.6". It is also of the wider design and has "windows" or "notches" at the top that helps with the feeding and getting three down in the box. Factory RUMs use a RUM specific follower also. I don't think either the box or follower is available from Winchester/Baco or whoever.
RUM actions have different feed rails machined with a notch or kickout on the left side. The feed ramp may or may not be different. Winchesters quality control was so sloppy it's sometimes hard to tell what was intentional and what was just an oversight.
Winchester rifles and Swarovski scopes.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 17,931 Likes: 11
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 17,931 Likes: 11 |
There’s one currently for sale; I can pm you a link if you haven’t seen it.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,556
Campfire Regular
|
OP
Campfire Regular
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,556 |
RUM box is the same length as any other H&H/STW/300Weatherby box. Like beretzs said, about 3.6". It is also of the wider design and has "windows" or "notches" at the top that helps with the feeding and getting three down in the box. Factory RUMs use a RUM specific follower also. I don't think either the box or follower is available from Winchester/Baco or whoever.
RUM actions have different feed rails machined with a notch or kickout on the left side. The feed ramp may or may not be different. Winchesters quality control was so sloppy it's sometimes hard to tell what was intentional and what was just an oversight. Thank you! This is good information. I didn't know that 1, the RUM had specific features and 2, some of the long actions were different than other long actions. I have a 7 STW but I didn't measure that mag box. I appreciate the info.
Last edited by bobinpa; 12/26/23.
I sure could go for some $2.50/gal gas and a mean tweet!
NRA Benefactor member, disgruntled. Life member: Firearms Owners Against Crime. Life member: GOA Member: RMEF
TRUMP 2020
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2022
Posts: 1,203
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jan 2022
Posts: 1,203 |
From the research I did on this, building a 338 Edge it's recommended to have a 3.8 or longer magazine box in order to take advantage of the cartridge capacity. With custom machining this is definitely feasible if you start with a RUM action as recommended. Far simpler to go the Remington style action route unfortunately. I compromised and went with a 330 dakota which is essentially a shortened edge, very similar to 33 Nosler.
|
|
|
|
499 members (1lesfox, 10gaugemag, 17CalFan, 12344mag, 16gage, 160user, 55 invisible),
2,638
guests, and
1,183
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,192,365
Posts18,488,166
Members73,970
|
Most Online11,491 Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|