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I’m getting frustrated by the lack of “Traditional” hunting scopes out there and the lack of power ranges 1x-5x Leupold I’m looking at you! Does everything have to have a monster tube and a turret on top of it? Also you bumped out all the fantastic middle ground offerings. Everything is close to $1k because it has HD on it! How about running some a line of hunting scopes in that vx3 range? Even if it was only every so often?
Other brands too, vortex had it nailed with the razor hd lh line that they quickly made tacticool…now it’s like everything else…
I want simple optic for some DG calibers and just cannot find a simple scope like the good ol m8 of Vari -x iii
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As Slick Willy said, "I feel your pain".
Just buy all of the old Vari-X III and M8 Leupolds you can find. If one goes bad they will send you crappy new ones under warranty forever. But you probably won't need them.
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It’s what’s selling right now.
But yea, I strongly agree.
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I’m getting frustrated by the lack of “Traditional” hunting scopes out there and the lack of power ranges 1x-5x Leupold I’m looking at you! Does everything have to have a monster tube and a turret on top of it? Also you bumped out all the fantastic middle ground offerings. Everything is close to $1k because it has HD on it! How about running some a line of hunting scopes in that vx3 range? Even if it was only every so often?
Other brands too, vortex had it nailed with the razor hd lh line that they quickly made tacticool…now it’s like everything else…
I want simple optic for some DG calibers and just cannot find a simple scope like the good ol m8 of Vari -x iii
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HOPE THEY READ IT! Sadly, you may have to buy used.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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https://www.leupold.com/vx-3hd-1-5-5x20-cds-zl-duplex1" tube, 1.5-5x. Seems right up your alley if that's what you're after. It does have a CDS knob that is low profile and locks, so you don't have to use it.
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"Full time night woman? I never could find no tracks on a woman's heart. I packed me a squaw for ten year, Pilgrim. Cheyenne, she were, and the meanest bitch that ever balled for beads."
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far too many to tacticool and heavy . versus more simplistic and nice and light..
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far too many to tacticool and heavy . versus more simplistic and nice and light.. Probably the reason scopes like the gloss and silver Leupold Vari-XIIc models are selling like hotcakes over on ebay. Those damn things demand a premium.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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far too many to tacticool and heavy . versus more simplistic and nice and light.. Probably the reason scopes like the gloss and silver Leupold Vari-XIIc models are selling like hotcakes over on ebay. Those damn things demand a premium. Girls want their heels to match their nails. ![wink wink](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/default/wink.gif)
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Lots of Fudd scopes out there still. And they still suck
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That’s why I held on to the 80’s vintage Leupold 3X9’s For tracking I don’t want anything bigger and half the time I take it off and run iron sights. People don’t hunt like I do anymore which is fine I’m set with my gear. Most hunt over a Ag field or a pile of corn and shoot critters from their deer blind gun turrets. Different strokes. There’s a few out there still, find one, grab it and hold onto it
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I quizzed two manufactures about making a simple 3 - 9, both almost verbatim said, magnification sells.
Blame your fellow shooter, market driven environment, they build what sells.
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Yep. 3 guys I’ve advised lately all want 14x or more, to hunt mostly inside 250yds for deer.
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I just shake my head every time is see the uber tacticool LPVO mentioned. I was using 1-4X, 1.75-6X, and 2-7X 40 years ago. Still do.
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I quizzed two manufactures about making a simple 3 - 9, both almost verbatim said, magnification sells.
Blame your fellow shooter, market driven environment, they build what sells. What's wrong with a Trijicon Accupoint 3-9x40 with a duplex reticle? Also, Burris Fullfield II scopes may be"discontinued," but they're (including 3-9x40 model) still available on Amazon, so stock up before they're gone. Those are the scopes you are looking for at two different price points.
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Agreed. Nothing fits a rifle anymore. Especially if you want low with nothing hanging over the ejection port.
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Same reason you can hardly get a mfg like Winchester to run a m70 with blued steel and walnut… Listen i know there are used options etc but I’m just saying…WTF I understand it’s marketing and it’s what is in but it seems to me that they have terrible overlap on their models…Jesus, how many turreted, w/ segmented reticle, scopes does a company have to produce? Need to bug SWFA to do a “hunter line” simple sleek light hunting scopes! searching midway and filter the search for “min power 1x”….proceed to get pissed! Looks like trijicon might have an option or two. But bordering that affordability line… Saw a nice nightforce $4350 ‘ish It’s frustrating! Leupold do a “campfire run” ![wink wink](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/default/wink.gif)
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Yep. 3 guys I’ve advised lately all want 14x or more, to hunt mostly inside 250yds for deer. Wow, I absolutely believe that but still saddened. Better off with a fixed 3x if they could find one. We live in an urbanized culture where practical field experience has been supplanted by wannabe SEAL snipers. Ask any Western hunting guide and they'll tell you their clients are over scoped, over calibered, under practiced and out of shape, but the fundamentals aren't sexy and don't sell product or periodicals.
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OP). I run 50mm 2x10/2x12 on all my hunting rifles..........We can shoot(deer) 1 hr before sunrise to 1 hr after sun set........Those weinie scopes just won't cut in low light. Neither will small cheap binoculars..............Youse pays yo $$$ and makes yo choice.
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