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Stiller has changed hands a couple of times in the past few years. It is now owned by the company that builds Horizon Firearms, iota stocks, etc. I just tested one of their rifles, a 22 Creedmoor, and the accuracy was exceptional (sub .25 MOA 3-shot groups with factory ammo). They have obviously brought the quality back and I wouldn’t hesitate to buy one.

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Originally Posted by 300MAG
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I did about 7/8 years ago.....gunsmith called me and said there would be machine work charges to square up the action...had it done but it was my last Stiller!!

In my opinion...there are better actions out there:

BAT
Defiance Machine
Surgeon
Borden
Terminus
Lone Peak
Impact
Pierce Engineering

You trust your smith? Do you know what he "trued" up? Kelblys, Bat, Pierce, and Borden make good receivers along with all of Stillers.

I do trust him....you trust yours?? I know you're a Stiller FANBOY....but calling me/my smith a liar?? How about GFY!!

My lugs were outta square and the action face needed trued up....

PS - Mr. Gradous is no longer here or he woulda chimed in....THANKS!!

Why is he no longer here?


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I have the exact thing OP is talking about putting together with the exception of a boots R5 that Barney specified bore ID in. It's a unicorn barrel and shoots really well.

OP you will like the rifle but wish that you would have used a kelbly nanook once you have it for a while, at least I did/do.


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Why is he no longer here?[/quote]

Robert passed away back in 2020.

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I traded into a build on a Stiller Predator a while back. Benchmark #3 barrel chambered in 6.5CM. McM Compact, Timney CE, APA M5, Hawkins LR Hybrids. Shoots fantastic, and is really growing on me.


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I've seen more well-shot game lost with TSXs than any other premium bullet.

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300Mag, In my opinion Butch was not questioning your character but was inquiring about how much you knew of your gunsmith who did the work on your Stiller action. Given your response, it can be assumed that you have a good relationship and that you knew him well; an appropriate response would be something along those lines. Butch is a talented gunsmith who has unselfishly shared his professional knowledge to the benefit of thousands of members here on The Fire at least for the twelve years that I've been on here. He was probably wondering like the rest of us on here, why you did not immediately contact the maker of your action as soon as your gunsmith informed you of the issues; secondly, any experienced and honest gunsmith would have advised you of that option prior to any actual work being done. Given Butch's depth of experience, that was probably what he would have asked you next, if you had given him the chance. Additionally, Al Nyhus another well-qualified gunsmith and machinist - who also goes out his way to share his knowledge with us - questioned your response and you insulted him. Third, you then received a more 'direct' response from Slobob63. I respectfully suggest that you should take a minute to think this through and then hopefully conclude that you should apologize to Butch and also Al.

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Have had a rifle built on a Stiller Predator action for about 10yrs. It’s on its 3rd barrel now and one of my favorites. Action is as smooth as any I’ve handled, and that includes a couple of Defiance actions.

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I think it was around my third or fourth custom build I usually just used rem. 700 actions. I decided I want to go with a Stiller pred. action and asked my friend about it who is gun smith and he also friend of al nyhus. I got the action and put a Lilja barrel on it chambered in 17 Pred.. It was the best build I ever had made and still is so no complaints the sucker would shoot. The coyotes hated that gun though!

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Originally Posted by lone wolf
Why is he no longer here?

Robert passed away back in 2020.[/quote]

Ya I know! Sad but the mind of a ocd beyond perfectionist combined with depression doesn't always end well. Out of spec at .00005" is usually open for interpretation.
All my Stiller actions have shot very well only bitch I have ever had is the bolt stop getting sticky after 8 to 12 thousand bangs.


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Originally Posted by Jimmypop
All my Stiller actions have shot very well only bitch I have ever had is the bolt stop getting sticky after 8 to 12 thousand bangs.
What do you figure caused that? Did the bolt stop peen/deform and get sticky, or the bolt stop pin deform?


Originally Posted by Llama_Bob
I've seen more well-shot game lost with TSXs than any other premium bullet.

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The stop took a little bit of damage. Its face just rounded a little.
I work the bolt like it's a slide hammer. That particular action had gone through 3 barrels chambered in 300 wm. Shoots like a dream to this day last time it got a new barrel the stop got replaced. Problem solved with the new part.


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Good to know. Thnx.


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I've seen more well-shot game lost with TSXs than any other premium bullet.

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I built a 6.5 Creedmoor on a Stiller Predator action, Shilen barrel several years ago when Jerry still owned the company. It has been good and I would recommend them. I'm not familiar with the new ownership so I can't opine about that. Pierce makes a fine action and it is smooth.

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I kind of think of mine as a "Campfire Gun". I wanted a 6.5-06, so I got a Stiller Predator action. I got a Rock 1-8" sporter weight barrel from the fire classifieds; a Leupold 30mm 4.5-14 with M1 turrets from the classifieds; a McMillan Edge SAKO pattern from Rick Bin; and got Remington mag guts and bottom metal and a TriggerTech trigger from wherever.

Dropped it off with Jim Kobe to chamber/barrel/bed/assemble. He did his usual outstanding job and sent it to Fosnaugh for Cerrokote. Pretty darn easy cartridge to work with! Only thing I've taken with it is one coyote and this smallish Muley buck.
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I've had some over the years and still have 2 that are 2 of my most accurate rifles. Both were built around 15 years ago when there wasn't as many custom action options.

One is a 300 wsm on a predator with a brux #4 interrupted fluted at 24". The very first group with this rifle with the new scope out of the box with no adjustments was dead center at 100 yards and under .2". I also shot a 2.5" 3 shot group at 1000 yards with it off a bipod and rear bag with 208g amaxes.

The other is a tac 30 aw in 6.5 Creedmoor I had built as soon as the Creedmoor was announced. It's the first 6.5 Creedmoor I ever saw and I still have it. It'd got a bartlien 5r 8 twist sendero contour at 24". I found a load it loved first time out and have always just stuck with it so I haven't experimented much with it. Its a 140 vld h over h4350 at 2820 fps. I had bartlien send the barrel to stiller and a guy that worked there named Scott IIRC correctly chambered it for me.


Both are very accurate but I do not like the steep ejection angle I get with the m16 style extractors. I hate it when cases bounce off my windage know and back into the action. I've got rid of most all my other customs that had m16 style extractors except for these two. I like low mounted scopes and like to dial.

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