Gentleman this may be a long shot but here goes. My father who was not a hunter and not one much for gifts in general bought me a hunting knife the old timer 160ot. My particular one had the stone in the front of sheath, and long story short, I lost this knife many years ago and have done everything except get a metal detector and go look in the area I think it may be. Literally a needle in a haystack search along with a guess. If anyone has this knife ( original old timer version) new or in good condition and would be willing to part with it please let me know.