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has anybody ever solved or found a workaround for the known flare issue schmidt and bender scopes have? i love my s&b klassik 3-12x50 scope but that flare is something when pointing towards or directly away from a setting or rising sun. i wonder would a sunshade eliminate the flare?

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Originally Posted by whitearrow
has anybody ever solved or found a workaround for the known flare issue schmidt and bender scopes have? i love my s&b klassik 3-12x50 scope but that flare is something when pointing towards or directly away from a setting or rising sun. i wonder would a sunshade eliminate the flare?

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I have this scope. There is no flare issue. I shot my biggest buck ever with the sun behind him in Wyoming.

I have no idea where you heard this. Somewhere on this forum I mentioned the shot in a thread several years ago.

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Sunshade helps. I use the following (on an x42 objective) and prefer the rubber to the aluminum. I didn't look at what they have for 50mm...sorry.

https://www.eurooptic.com/Schmidt-Bender-42mm-Rubber-Sun-Shades-971-44210.aspx

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Originally Posted by mrmarklin
Originally Posted by whitearrow
has anybody ever solved or found a workaround for the known flare issue schmidt and bender scopes have? i love my s&b klassik 3-12x50 scope but that flare is something when pointing towards or directly away from a setting or rising sun. i wonder would a sunshade eliminate the flare?

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I have this scope. There is no flare issue. I shot my biggest buck ever with the sun behind him in Wyoming.

I have no idea where you heard this. Somewhere on this forum I mentioned the shot in a thread several years ago.
well buddy you mighta gotten lucky but mine definitely has it but only on 12x is it seen to be troublesome. its juts a washed out looking image kinda like its foggy out. scope is brand new with its first 2 outings i've seen this.

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Take time to make sure your obj lens is actually clean.

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Take time to make sure your obj lens is actually clean.


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Originally Posted by whitearrow
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has anybody ever solved or found a workaround for the known flare issue schmidt and bender scopes have? i love my s&b klassik 3-12x50 scope but that flare is something when pointing towards or directly away from a setting or rising sun. i wonder would a sunshade eliminate the flare?

Big Ed
I have this scope. There is no flare issue. I shot my biggest buck ever with the sun behind him in Wyoming.

I have no idea where you heard this. Somewhere on this forum I mentioned the shot in a thread several years ago.
well buddy you mighta gotten lucky but mine definitely has it but only on 12x is it seen to be troublesome. its juts a washed out looking image kinda like its foggy out. scope is brand new with its first 2 outings i've seen this.

Big Ed

Only on 12X? Seriously?

You think the optics are fine on all other powers?

Give me a break.

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Originally Posted by mrmarklin
Originally Posted by whitearrow
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Originally Posted by whitearrow
has anybody ever solved or found a workaround for the known flare issue schmidt and bender scopes have? i love my s&b klassik 3-12x50 scope but that flare is something when pointing towards or directly away from a setting or rising sun. i wonder would a sunshade eliminate the flare?

Big Ed
I have this scope. There is no flare issue. I shot my biggest buck ever with the sun behind him in Wyoming.

I have no idea where you heard this. Somewhere on this forum I mentioned the shot in a thread several years ago.
well buddy you mighta gotten lucky but mine definitely has it but only on 12x is it seen to be troublesome. its juts a washed out looking image kinda like its foggy out. scope is brand new with its first 2 outings i've seen this.

Big Ed

Only on 12X? Seriously?

You think the optics are fine on all other powers?

Give me a break.
just reporting on what I see bud. glad you got a good one that shows no signs of stray light flare..

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Originally Posted by mrmarklin
Originally Posted by Ndbowhunter
Take time to make sure your obj lens is actually clean.


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lol right. brandy new scope thats always had the lens covers on..even while sitting on stand.

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Originally Posted by whitearrow
Originally Posted by mrmarklin
Originally Posted by Ndbowhunter
Take time to make sure your obj lens is actually clean.


LOL
lol right. brandy new scope thats always had the lens covers on..even while sitting on stand.

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Sorry, I assumed you got after it. Won’t make that mistake again.

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Originally Posted by whitearrow
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Originally Posted by Ndbowhunter
Take time to make sure your obj lens is actually clean.


LOL
lol right. brandy new scope thats always had the lens covers on..even while sitting on stand.

Big Ed
Things might get better if you took the lens covers off before you shoot . Just sayin!!


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No I don’t leave the lens covers on while shooting. Just while the rifle is leaning in the corner of the stand I keep em on.

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Had several dozen, pm2’s, klassic’s a few zenith’s, a few ultra brights, and even a summit, which was actually the best in terms of glare with the ones I’ve owned. A

nyway most all had glare at power in certain conditions, the higher power scopes being the worst. Looking north or south west on a clear day made some literally unusable and cost me to many times.

This isn’t a new thing, awesome glass, great scopes, very bright, other than the glare thing, but that’s a big deal for the coin they ask, a definite no go for me with the type hunting I do. That’s my experience anyway.

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I posted this on another forum. It happened to me this past hunting season with a 3-12x42mm Klassik with illuminated dot reticle.


I have that scope with illuminated dot reticle. It adjusts very well and seems very tough. However, it flared badly on me this year. A buck came out with a doe at daylight, to the east at 120 yards. I could clearly see the buck through my binos but when I put the gun up, it was like looking into a whiteout fog/snow storm but there was neither that morning. At first, I thought the scope was fogged but I tilted it up towards the treetops to check the image and it was clear. When I dropped back down on the buck, it was a complete whiteout and couldn’t see him. It took another 3-4 mins before I could faintly make out the deer’s shoulder. I squeezed off and heard the bullet impact but had no idea what had happened. Fortunately, the buck dropped but there was no way I could tell…..I have many brands of scopes and have shot at first and last light in similar situations but have never experienced that….I contacted SB and they offered to check the scope, which was bought new about a year ago. I am going to send it back after the season…..I have a 50mm Klassik and it has not shown the issue. I also learned that the Klassiks have an “upper 80’s” light transmission due to being an older design….


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