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Re: ELDX bullets and close shots Jordan Smith #19084367 01/07/24
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,710 Likes: 7 P pathfinder76 Campfire Regular
pathfinder76 Campfire Regular P Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,710 Likes: 7	Originally Posted by Jordan Smith Originally Posted by Jordan Smith The same has been the case for myself and family members and friends with the 147 ELD-M from various 6.5 CMs at ~2650-2700 fps at the muzzle, on numerous elk, MD, WT, PH, etc. We have had exits in each case, even on quartering shots. I’ve seen more game killed with the 147 ELD-M than the 127 LRX, but yet we’ve managed to catch more 127s (3 so far) than 147s, surprisingly. Ironically, after several years and many critters with the 147, and always getting exits, a hunting partner killed an elk yesterday and caught our group’s first two 147s. Tough shots with lots of tissue and bone smashed, and bullets just under the hide. Interested in seeing those as well

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Re: ELDX bullets and close shots Brad #19084379 01/07/24
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,852 Smoky Mountains, TN bwinters OP Campfire Outfitter
OP bwinters Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,852 Smoky Mountains, TN	Me too. Adversity doesn't build character, it reveals it.

Re: ELDX bullets and close shots bwinters #19085448 01/07/24
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,472 Where the wild things are. Sakoluvr Campfire Outfitter
Sakoluvr Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,472 Where the wild things are.	I will never hunt with an ELD X again. Once was enough to never trust the 175gr .284 https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...e-a-175-eld-x-on-game-again#Post19014238 Faith and love of others knows no mileage nor bounds. That's simply the way it is. dogzapper After the game is over, the king and the pawn go into the same box. Italian Proverb

Re: ELDX bullets and close shots Brad #19085936 01/07/24
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,516 Likes: 1 Calgary, AB, Canada Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter
Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,516 Likes: 1 Calgary, AB, Canada	Originally Posted by Brad Originally Posted by Jordan Smith Originally Posted by Jordan Smith The same has been the case for myself and family members and friends with the 147 ELD-M from various 6.5 CMs at ~2650-2700 fps at the muzzle, on numerous elk, MD, WT, PH, etc. We have had exits in each case, even on quartering shots. I’ve seen more game killed with the 147 ELD-M than the 127 LRX, but yet we’ve managed to catch more 127s (2 so far) than 147s, surprisingly. Ironically, after several years and many critters with the 147, and always getting exits, a hunting partner killed an elk yesterday and caught our group’s first two 147s. Tough shots with lots of tissue and bone smashed, and bullets just under the hide. Jordan, would love to see pics of those bullets if you can. Thanks! Shots taken at 591 meters. The second bullet smashed the humerus on a quartering away shot.

Re: ELDX bullets and close shots Jordan Smith #19085950 01/07/24
Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,286 Brad Campfire 'Bwana
Brad Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,286	Wow Jordan, impressive! Thanks for sharing. “Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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Re: ELDX bullets and close shots Jordan Smith #19086193 01/08/24
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 10,092 Likes: 1 Whttail_in_MT Campfire Outfitter
Whttail_in_MT Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 10,092 Likes: 1	Thanks, Jordan. Were those out of a 6.5 CM too?

Re: ELDX bullets and close shots Jordan Smith #19086386 01/08/24
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 8,226 Likes: 1 PA Teeder Campfire Outfitter
Teeder Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 8,226 Likes: 1 PA	" yet we’ve managed to catch more 127s " What do the 127's look like?

Re: ELDX bullets and close shots Whttail_in_MT #19086472 01/08/24
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,516 Likes: 1 Calgary, AB, Canada Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter
Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,516 Likes: 1 Calgary, AB, Canada	Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT Thanks, Jordan. Were those out of a 6.5 CM too? Yessir.

Re: ELDX bullets and close shots Teeder #19086476 01/08/24
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,516 Likes: 1 Calgary, AB, Canada Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter
Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,516 Likes: 1 Calgary, AB, Canada	Originally Posted by Teeder " yet we’ve managed to catch more 127s " What do the 127's look like? I’ll see if I can scrape up a couple of photos.

Re: ELDX bullets and close shots Jordan Smith #19086647 01/08/24
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 10,092 Likes: 1 Whttail_in_MT Campfire Outfitter
Whttail_in_MT Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 10,092 Likes: 1	Originally Posted by Jordan Smith Originally Posted by Teeder " yet we’ve managed to catch more 127s " What do the 127's look like? I’ll see if I can scrape up a couple of photos. Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT What they look like after going through a deer at about a hundred yards and into the ground. Also out of an 18" suppressed 6.5 CM.

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Re: ELDX bullets and close shots Jordan Smith #19086664 01/08/24
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 10,092 Likes: 1 Whttail_in_MT Campfire Outfitter
Whttail_in_MT Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 10,092 Likes: 1	Originally Posted by Jordan Smith Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT Thanks, Jordan. Were those out of a 6.5 CM too? Yessir. A target bullet, a Creedmoor, an elk, and 650 yards. You're going to break the Internet.

Re: ELDX bullets and close shots Whttail_in_MT #19086674 01/08/24
Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,286 Brad Campfire 'Bwana
Brad Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 30,286	Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT Originally Posted by Jordan Smith Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT Thanks, Jordan. Were those out of a 6.5 CM too? Yessir. A target bullet, a Creedmoor, an elk, and 650 yards. You're going to break the Internet. LOL! Truth is, I'd rather use the 147 ELDM at that range than any mono. “Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Re: ELDX bullets and close shots Brad #19086697 01/08/24
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 8,226 Likes: 1 PA Teeder Campfire Outfitter
Teeder Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 8,226 Likes: 1 PA	Originally Posted by Brad Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT Originally Posted by Jordan Smith Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT Thanks, Jordan. Were those out of a 6.5 CM too? Yessir. A target bullet, a Creedmoor, an elk, and 650 yards. You're going to break the Internet. LOL! Truth is, I'd rather use the 147 ELDM at that range than any mono. Absolutely. I'll never know, though, because I don't shoot game at those ranges.

Re: ELDX bullets and close shots Jordan Smith #19086742 01/08/24
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,516 Likes: 1 Calgary, AB, Canada Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter
Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,516 Likes: 1 Calgary, AB, Canada	Originally Posted by Jordan Smith Originally Posted by Teeder " yet we’ve managed to catch more 127s " What do the 127's look like? I’ll see if I can scrape up a couple of photos. MD buck, estimated 350+ lbs live weight. Quartering away at 280 m. Entered rear ribs, came to rest against offside humerus without breaking it. Lost one petal which came to rest next to the bullet; likely broke off when the bullet impacted the humerus. Explained in image:

Re: ELDX bullets and close shots Jordan Smith #19087018 01/08/24
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 8,226 Likes: 1 PA Teeder Campfire Outfitter
Teeder Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 8,226 Likes: 1 PA	Thanks Jordan! What was the estimated ranges for those?

Re: ELDX bullets and close shots bwinters #19087079 01/08/24
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 39,139 Likes: 24 Flyover Country Teal Campfire 'Bwana
Teal Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 39,139 Likes: 24 Flyover Country	280 meters Me

Re: ELDX bullets and close shots Sakoluvr #19087159 01/08/24
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,089 D DonFischer Campfire Regular
DonFischer Campfire Regular D Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,089	Originally Posted by Sakoluvr I will never hunt with an ELD X again. Once was enough to never trust the 175gr .284 https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...e-a-175-eld-x-on-game-again#Post19014238 It's a strange thing. I use either Hornady Spire Points, sorry inter locks, or Speer Hot Cores. Never recovered a bullet to take a photo of other than some I shot into newspaper at 100 yds. Near as I can tell my junk cup and core bullet's merely kill things when properly placed. Somehow I have this feeling that pretty much any bullet properly placed will just kill things. Bear in mind the present #2 grizzly in the world was killed with a single shot rim fire rifle and a 22 long! One more surprise, doesn't seem to matter the dia or even weight of the bullet used, place it right and the animal is dead! Last time I used a 243 on deer I was out hunting coyote's and had only 75gr V-Max ammo with me. Have found that at 200yds shooting into a paper target taped to 2" foam backer the bullet's explode. At about 150 yds on a nice buck the bullet went into the chest, tore it up inside and the buck fell down right there! Probably should have shot it in the neck! never found the bullet or an exit!

Re: ELDX bullets and close shots Teeder #19087242 01/08/24
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,516 Likes: 1 Calgary, AB, Canada Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter
Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,516 Likes: 1 Calgary, AB, Canada	Originally Posted by Teeder Thanks Jordan! What was the estimated ranges for those? 280 m and 90 m. We caught a third 127 LRX in a bull moose. Frontal shot in the brisket. The bullet smashed the bottom processes of several vertebrae and wound up in the guts somewhere, but we never did find it, despite looking for it while field dressing.

Re: ELDX bullets and close shots bwinters #19087434 01/08/24
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 57,494 Alaska R rost495 Campfire Kahuna
rost495 Campfire Kahuna R Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 57,494 Alaska	Originally Posted by bwinters What has been the collective experience with the ELDX bullet at close range - say 30-40 yards being launched around 2900-3000? I called Hornady to get a bit of info on the 175 ELDX loads and discussing what I had in mind, he recomended against the ELDX for shots at that range and velocity (7PRC for reference). He opined it would not give an exit - which I'd expect - but did not give a glowing review of encounters with shoulder bones at that distance/velocity. From watching moose and brown bears hit with it off the shoulder from about 40 yards out to about 175 so far, rib cages give no exits. Dead animals obviously but it bothers me if leg bones may get hit. Obviously scapula are not all the tough but big bones can be tough. Flip side too, something hard can really change the angle of travel too and if you hit that hard spot first... rather than last.. but thats another subject and so far even breaking my own rules we have been lucky. But there is always me there to get in another shot if I can and its needed We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....

Re: ELDX bullets and close shots Brad #19088179 01/08/24
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,139 1 10at6 Campfire Regular
10at6 Campfire Regular 1 Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,139	Originally Posted by Brad Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT Originally Posted by Jordan Smith Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT Thanks, Jordan. Were those out of a 6.5 CM too? Yessir. A target bullet, a Creedmoor, an elk, and 650 yards. You're going to break the Internet. LOL! Truth is, I'd rather use the 147 ELDM at that range than any mono. I would use any match bullet long before using a mono. And most C and C's

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