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So, didn't they reverse their position? What else are they supposed to do? Really? They made several bad moves and gave lots of money to multiple bad actors, becoming bad actors themselves; they got caught and lied; they were presented with proof; they lied more; they were presented with proof in the form of tax reports; they backed off slowly. They gave serious money to anti- 2A entities... they should not have been as stupid and two-faced as they were. It is hard to believe you can be that obtuse.
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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What can they do to change your mind about them?
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Probably nothing. The damage is done and they have not gone to any effort to apologize. At SHOT right after the incidents they gave away tons of teeshirts with their stolen valor logo...
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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Thanks Folks, probably get a Colt Gold Cup and go from there! S.
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Thanks Folks, probably get a Colt Gold Cup and go from there! S. My apologies for the sidetrack! I have a little more than a handful of 1911s... my third and fourth were Les Baers... but frankly I would work the other end first given a chance for a do-over. Do not get me wrong, my Les Baers are incredible and I do not regret buying them. However, I mostly started at the top and went down. That is almost always a bad plan. I got the accuracy guarantee on my first... Wish I had started shooting them a bunch and worked up. Learning comes faster moving up IME.
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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I recommend this model.
https://www.gunsandammo.com/editorial/colt-combat-elite-1911-government-commander-defender/389142#:~:text=Among%20those%20options%20is%20the,tested%20examples%20in%20every%20size.
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I recommend this model.
https://www.gunsandammo.com/editorial/colt-combat-elite-1911-government-commander-defender/389142#:~:text=Among%20those%20options%20is%20the,tested%20examples%20in%20every%20size. He said it had to have adjustable sights.
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I recommend this model.
https://www.gunsandammo.com/editorial/colt-combat-elite-1911-government-commander-defender/389142#:~:text=Among%20those%20options%20is%20the,tested%20examples%20in%20every%20size. He said it had to have adjustable sights. It does
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I recommend this model.
https://www.gunsandammo.com/editorial/colt-combat-elite-1911-government-commander-defender/389142#:~:text=Among%20those%20options%20is%20the,tested%20examples%20in%20every%20size. He said it had to have adjustable sights. It does Unless you consider adjusting with a drift punch - I'm not seeing adjustables on these. Colt's WebsiteI handled one a few months back - no adjustable sights (I am not a fan, wouldn't bother picking one up if it had them as it's a no-go for me on purchase)
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Aahhh, yes I was thinking that. Thanks for the correction. Lotta colt for the money, and mine is silly point and shoot accurate. Never needed to adjust anything sightwise. I did have a short trigger and new recoil spring installed, but that was for preference. To the OP, good luck in your next 1911.
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Tisas. Pick the model that has the features you like. Nothing better on the market for the value. And I have owned S&W, Kimber, Les, Colt, and Wilson’s About $950.00 for this one (Tisas 1911 Match 45), that more than fits the OP's bill. And includes front strap checkering, and other nice features not on the Gold Cup, such as mag well extension, beavertail grip safety, and extended and ambi thumb safety. That's the one I was talking about in my earlier post, and they are pretty good pistols, no MIM parts (if that matters to you), and they are pretty nice. I have a two-tone pistol very similar, in 10mm (the D-10), with the same sights and checkered frontstrap. It's really comfortable to shoot, and shoots fairly well, at that. I haven't shot it much yet (just got it three weeks ago), but it's a nice pistol.
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One feature I am not wild about for a carry gun, is the trigger on a “Gold Cup” is almost as wide as the trigger guard. Fully capable of being inadvertently activated by a tight holster. Would require a “stacking” of mistakes to shoot your leg but still not a feature I’d prefer unless just a “range bench, target pistol”.
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Aahhh, yes I was thinking that. Thanks for the correction. Lotta colt for the money, and mine is silly point and shoot accurate. Never needed to adjust anything sightwise. I did have a short trigger and new recoil spring installed, but that was for preference. To the OP, good luck in your next 1911. People who require adjustable sights are anticipating shooting at wildly different ranges, with all sorts of different loads and bullet weights.
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Baer gets a lot of love here & I really don't know why.
As for him for building a BE gun, (softball) he doesn't, not really......................maybe called that, but it's not.
To even think about running 3.2 gr of Bullseye with 185 gr bullets with an 18# spring, even with a light slide, is laughable.
That's a common loading for the two stages at the 25 yard line.
18# is a hardball spring, & not even needed for that as a 16.5 # is "standard ". Might be OK for the NM course which is hardball...........
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So I’ve owned 1911s in the past d got rid of them. Time to get another. I need it to be stainless, reliable with flat points have adj sights and accurate. Price doesn’t matter much but would like it rather stock. How’s those gold cups? S. Dont know what your level of interest is, but maybe get Kunhausen book or equivalent - study it, buy parts from Brownells or whatever have some fun with it. I have an old 9 major colt built by Clark with over 200000 rds, through it, during my IPSC time. Start with a Tisa and go from the bottom. Before Beavertails, there was a curved upward "tail" still on some of the basic models. These were moulded in and smoothed out using the original frame as part of the new beavertail. Try it. doesn't stick out like the ones today.
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The Colt Gold Cup is legit. Can't go wrong with it. Being a Colt, it will hold it's value better than any other brand. It will out shoot you.
Stop selling your guns!!!
Gibby This: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Since you like to sell your guns, I'll tell a True Story. I bought my Gold Cup National Match Series 70 for a lot less than $1,000 in the 80s. It's worth well over $2,000 today.
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My 80's era Gold Cup had nearly as many issues as my 90's era Kimber. Those were the two worst handguns I have ever owned.
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
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So, didn't they reverse their position? What else are they supposed to do? Really? They made several bad moves and gave lots of money to multiple bad actors, becoming bad actors themselves; they got caught and lied; they were presented with proof; they lied more; they were presented with proof in the form of tax reports; they backed off slowly. They gave serious money to anti- 2A entities... they should not have been as stupid and two-faced as they were. It is hard to believe you can be that obtuse. So where do you stand on Smith and Wesson? Company? Owning old guns? Slandering Glock Era? Ripping off Glock Era? Clinton Era?
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