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I posted this article on rte's thread about the reported being arrested but thought it should have its own spot as well. Right up there with the Chynese police stations in NYC and of course the guv. authorities not wanting to talk about it. https://www.montanarightnow.com/gre...aa71f0e-3f84-11ed-8331-23bd335a2466.htmlUPDATE: OCT. 17 AT 2:10 P.M. We reached out to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) in regard to the undercover Canadian police officer found at the gun show in Great Falls in September. ATF's public information officer Crystal K. McCoy told us they are not going to comment on the issue with us and they will not have a conversation about it. In September, local county employees and people saw someone with Canadian license plates watching people at a gun show in Great Falls. The person in question was an undercover police officer assigned to a Royal Canadian Mounted Police Task Force for gun smuggling and was working with ATF. Cascade County Sheriff Jesse Slaughter told Montana Right Now the sheriff's office was not informed about the undercover operation. GREAT FALLS, Mont. - According to Cascade County Sheriff Jesse Slaughter, local county employees and people noticed someone with Canadian plates watching people at the gun show. Once deputies and the sheriff arrived, the operation was shut down immediately. "It's very dangerous to have an operation like that, and we should have been notified. So we told them the operation was over and to their credit, they agreed and they left that," said Slaughter. The police officer was assigned to a Royal Canadian Mounted Police Task Force for gun smuggling and was working with ATF. "We want to work with our federal partners. We do. And I want to have a working relationship with them. We have always had a really good working relationship. But there needs to be that mutual respect," said Slaughter. Slaughter tells Montana Right Now that not much information is known about the investigation as he wasn't informed about the undercover operation. "That could have been extremely, extremely dangerous. And then you had the variable that there was a Canadian Canadian law enforcement officer in there, and that would have been an international incident," said Slaughter.
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Usin Canadian LEO ta violate US citizen's rights.
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Yes, deserves it's own thread. Cascade County Sheriff Jesse Slaughter
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What Trooper Dudley Doright needed was 4 flat tires, then the sheriff would have been notified. Find out real quick if the sheriff is worth his salary.
Well this is a fine pickle we're in, should'a listened to Joe McCarthy and George Orwell I guess.
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The Sheriff mentioned the need for mutual respect. I can just about guarantee that no federal law enforcement agencies have any respect at all for his department.
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Yes, deserves it's own thread. Cascade County Sheriff Jesse SlaughterThanks for the sheriff's picture?
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I might have missed it, but I didn’t see any real pro gun statements from the sheriff. More like he felt slighted that he wasn’t involved. He’d probably confiscate your guns if called on to do so. 🫤
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I might have missed it, but I didn’t see any real pro gun statements from the sheriff. More like he felt slighted that he wasn’t involved. He’d probably confiscate your guns if called on to do so. 🫤 You might want to read this: https://www.krtv.com/news/great-fal...ponds-to-report-calling-him-an-extremist
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Foreign governments spying on US Citizens, fully facilitated by the US government, Hmmm........
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Sorry, not gonna chase down your link. Just going by what’s posted above. His own words, as far as I can see. Maybe the sheriff really is a good guy. I don’t know him personally.
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What do you make of this: "Slaughter, who switched parties last year, is running for re-election."
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Sorry, not gonna chase down your link. Just going by what’s posted above. His own words, as far as I can see. Maybe the sheriff really is a good guy. I don’t know him personally. Well dumbazz maybe it you clicked on the link you would have a better understanding of who he is without driving to Montana and trying to meet the guy and get to know him.... fuggin moron
Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Not to change the subject, but Ca. DOJ agents regularly monitor gun shows in Nevada and Arizona… looking for Ca. vehicles to show up.
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Sorry, not gonna chase down your link. Ya, why read anymore, reading is soooooo yesterday. Chattering away incessantly is where it's at, huh.
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Years back when Bloomberg was the mayor of NY, they sent NYPD officers to VA gunshows to try and gin up illegal sales. Fuggers should’ve been arrested and prosecuted. CBS news tried that even longer ago in FL, but nobody bit.
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Have you ever crossed into Canada on a hunting trip and the Canadian border agents pull up your NCIC records to see if you have committed a felony? How did they get US citizen’s records?
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Have you ever crossed into Canada on a hunting trip and the Canadian border agents pull up your NCIC records to see if you have committed a felony? How did they get US citizen’s records? Yes, and we've discussed it ad nauseum on the long trip to Saskatchewan. What sort of Int'l agreements are in place that we are never told about?
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I hear Massachusetts and California pull similar stunts in other states.. For instance going after sporting goods stores in other states for selling magazines that are legal in the state where sold but which unconstitutional MA and CA laws prohibit their residents from owning. I believe that the use ATF agents to do so.
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the mounties lost their mojo years ago. Now they are nazi thugs. Look at the way they treated Canadians during the covid scamdemic. How they treated the Canadian truck drivers. As bad as they are though, the real rotten egg with this story is the ATF 'working with' them on American soil.
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Sorry, not gonna chase down your link. Ya, why read anymore, reading is soooooo yesterday. Chattering away incessantly is where it's at, huh. LOL ....I just clicked on your link and read it...No chasing involved.
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the mounties lost their mojo years ago. Now they are nazi thugs. Look at the way they treated Canadians during the covid scamdemic. How they treated the Canadian truck drivers. As bad as they are though, the real rotten egg with this story is the ATF 'working with' them on American soil. Mannlicher; Top of the morning my cyber friend, I hope Florida is getting decent weather today and you all are well. It would seem to me that the goal of both RCMP and ATF in this particular situation at the Montana gun show was to pick some easy fruit, then show said fruit in a very public way. I'd further opine that would enhance a particular narrative and agenda which would benefit those who are directing the actions at the top of the RCMP for sure and likely the ATF as well. Having LEO contacts up here who are tasked with cross border smuggling of all things, including contraband firearms, pharmaceutical products and even people, it is clear that no "big fish" will be caught at a Montana gun show. As always, I'm just a semi-ancient BC redneck so what do I really know, you know? All the best nonetheless Mannlicher. Dwayne
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It's all speculation. We don't know the extent of the arms smuggling operation under investigation. No one is trying to catch an innocent person, they will catch whoever is illegally involved in arms smuggling across international borders and against Canadian Laws. Unfortunately, until laws change, laws are laws.
What we do know is that there are far more shootings in Canada by criminals than there used to be and most of the firearms used are coming across the border from the U.S. Likely similar situation in Mexico. This is, in part, why we need border controls- something that the U.S. is lacking but that Canada does slightly better- I said slightly...
Fortunately, we have the right to bear arms in the U.S. and as long as no one was doing anything illegal at the gun show, there was nothing to worry about.
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Most "illegal" stuff is coming across the border is via the res, but don't look there.
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Foreign governments spying on US Citizens, fully facilitated by the US government, Hmmm........ It's more likely that they were there to watch CDNs who might attend that show and attempt to cross back into Canada with restricted items. Illegal/smuggled handguns into Canada is a huge gang problem and the liberals gov't here is using it as an excuse to target legal/law abiding gun owner's rights while the criminals at the root of the problem are not affected.
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the mounties lost their mojo years ago. Now they are nazi thugs. Look at the way they treated Canadians during the covid scamdemic. How they treated the Canadian truck drivers. Not only during covid, but a few days ago as well. https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/rebel-news-david-menzies-rcmp-arrest
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It's all speculation. We don't know the extent of the arms smuggling operation under investigation. No one is trying to catch an innocent person, they will catch whoever is illegally involved in arms smuggling across international borders and against Canadian Laws. Unfortunately, until laws change, laws are laws.
What we do know is that there are far more shootings in Canada by criminals than there used to be and most of the firearms used are coming across the border from the U.S. Likely similar situation in Mexico. This is, in part, why we need border controls- something that the U.S. is lacking but that Canada does slightly better- I said slightly...
Fortunately, we have the right to bear arms in the U.S. and as long as no one was doing anything illegal at the gun show, there was nothing to worry about. Do something about societal decay and the availability of firearms would be moot.
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Foreign governments spying on US Citizens, fully facilitated by the US government, Hmmm........ It's more likely that they were there to watch CDNs who might attend that show and attempt to cross back into Canada with restricted items. Illegal/smuggled handguns into Canada is a huge gang problem and the liberals gov't here is using it as an excuse to target legal/law abiding gun owner's rights while the criminals at the root of the problem are not affected. This is also possible too. It would be illegal for a Canadian to cross into the U.S., purchase a 'restricted' firearm, undocumented, then cross back into Canada. But the article says smuggling so if that was done at scale or with U.S. help, that would be far worse given Canadian laws. As an aside, we need to be tougher on crime on both sides of the border.
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Agreed. Yes, like education, healthcare etc. Canada has, compared to the U.S., had mostly free healthcare and cheap and good education...that's not helping much and more needs to be done- drugs are a problem but the war on drugs isn't as effective as it should. All in all, it's complicated...
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Have you ever crossed into Canada on a hunting trip and the Canadian border agents pull up your NCIC records to see if you have committed a felony? How did they get US citizen’s records? Yes, and we've discussed it ad nauseum on the long trip to Saskatchewan. What sort of Int'l agreements are in place that we are never told about? Great question. I’ve hunted and fished north of the border for over 40 years, followed the rules and only had slight issue. More trouble coming back thru the US side. I had an American Nam vet in the vehicle maybe 15 years ago who had gotten in trouble in Wyoming in 73, plead it down and payed the fine then, released. The Canadians in 09 would not let him in. For fishing. Not sure how they dug that up? Is there a big smuggling operation of guns into Canada to warrant the op’s story? I’ve been back and forth all these years for fishing and hunting, met all sorts of Canadians good and otherwise, and never once has anyone ever even inkled an interest in getting an American gun. I’ve been missing something? Osky
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aws.
What we do know is that there are far more shootings in Canada by criminals than there used to be That's because there's far more Somalians in Canada than there used to be.
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aws.
What we do know is that there are far more shootings in Canada by criminals than there used to be That's because there's far more Somalians in Canada than there used to be. They come for the 'free healthcare and good & cheap education', they just get sidetracked somewhere along the way. Those poor misguided Somalians!
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Once deputies and the sheriff arrived, the operation was shut down immediately. Well, temporarily. Now they know to rent a car with MT plates. The operation will continue.
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It's all speculation. We don't know the extent of the arms smuggling operation under investigation. No one is trying to catch an innocent person, they will catch whoever is illegally involved in arms smuggling across international borders and against Canadian Laws. Unfortunately, until laws change, laws are laws.
What we do know is that there are far more shootings in Canada by criminals than there used to be and most of the firearms used are coming across the border from the U.S. Likely similar situation in Mexico. This is, in part, why we need border controls- something that the U.S. is lacking but that Canada does slightly better- I said slightly...
Fortunately, we have the right to bear arms in the U.S. and as long as no one was doing anything illegal at the gun show, there was nothing to worry about. Eat a dick. Your whole post is flawed.
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