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Made a post that a high post count member deemed as adequately covered previously.
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If this has been done before, I apologize.
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Frank It has. Apology accepted
The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
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Build a simple model 700 with no. 3 stainless select match barrel in .280 rem or 30-06. NF optic, bedded in the best stock you can afford. Bullets from 150 to 180 with any 4350 or 4831 and your smacking critters. Action- Remington Barrel- Shilen Stock- McMillan Bottom metal- PTG Trigger- Trigger tech Mounts- leupy two piece backcountry Scope- NF
More powder, 7 rem mag is never a bad choice.
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If this has been done before, I apologize.
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Frank It has. Apology accepted Thanks for your help. I’ll delete the post.
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Who cares if it has or not. Start another one!
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If this has been done before, I apologize.
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Frank It has. Apology accepted Thanks for your help. I’ll delete the post. You might take note the other thread in the forum that discusses your question. It’s in close proximity to this thread, like the very next one down in the page.
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M700. ADL or BDL to suit you. Dave Gentry 3 pos safe. Rifle Basic trigger. Brux No3. 1-9 7mm In 280 Ackley Improved. Top it off with some Barnes TTSXs McMillian or Banser to suit you. Schmidt & Bender 3-12x42 with the P3 mil dot. dave
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If this has been done before, I apologize.
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Frank It has. Apology accepted Thanks for your help. I’ll delete the post. You might take note the other thread in the forum that discusses your question. It’s in close proximity to this thread, like the very next one down in the page. I’m not going to go back and forth with you on this. If you had read my post you would have seen that it wasn’t specific to elk cartridges, ballistics or Model 700 builds.
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If this has been done before, I apologize.
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Frank It has. Apology accepted Thanks for your help. I’ll delete the post. You might take note the other thread in the forum that discusses your question. It’s in close proximity to this thread, like the very next one down in the page. I’m not going to go back and forth with you on this. If you had read my post you would have seen that it wasn’t specific to elk cartridges, ballistics or Model 700 builds. Frank, what is it exactly that you are looking to build? Besides a lifetime long range rig? Any cartridges you think you might prefer. How far out, are you looking to shoot? I'm one that would not build on a Rem 700. I hate the cheap azzed flimsy extractor they provide. There are much better designs out there, that you can build from. Some clones are much better, and address the shortcomings of the Rem 700.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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BAT HR action......nitrided
Krieger barrel....4 groove 1-8 twist
McMillan stock of your liking
TriggerTech Diamond trigger
Hawkins Precision BDL bottom metal
Schmidt and Bender Scope of your liking
Seekins rings
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BSA, my question was if you could build out one rifle for a lifetime of deer and elk hunting at distances of 800-1000 yards, what would you build. I specifically asked about actions and barrels. Dave and Coyote 10 gave a pretty comprehensive list and I appreciate that. Thank you. There is no question in my mind that their rigs would be extremely effective. I was really curious if the people doing this type of shooting would lean toward BAT or Borden actions, etc as opposed to trued Remingtons, and Bartlein or Kreiger cut rifled barrels, as opposed to button rifle barrel makers, etc. A follow on question would have been who they would choose to do the gunsmith work. I have nothing against Remington actions, the most accurate rifle I own was built by a gunsmith that builds, competes with and places and wins with rifles he's built. Mine was built on a Model 7 action that I had and is exceptional.
Used to be the conventional wisdom was that for the price of a trued "blueprinted" Model 700 action you could use a custom action like a Bat, Borden, Pierce and come out pretty close on price. Seems like current prices on full custom actions may have opened that difference some. There are also some newer barrel makers who are getting a lot of discussion now that weren't of heard much 10 years ago. I've never had a chassis rifle and they don't appeal to me much, but guys who are going to some real extemes in terms of both distance walked and distance shot are doing impressive things with them.
I posted my question in a very open form much along the lines of "If you could build one for a lifetime, what would it be" along with a few specific questions about things like barrels and actions. I left it open because I was interested in what the posters here were thinking. The member above obviously felt like I was wasting time so I withdrew my question.
I'm fairly knowledgeable about accuracy builds and reloading techniques for lightweight and shorter range hunting and BR shooting but have effectively no practical knowledge related to the discipline of long range precision shooting. I just heard about spin drift at long range within the last week. As an Adirondack hunter and guide, it's not been a factor for me. I have more problems finding a hole through the brush that I can make a clean shot through. I've read about precision long range a lot, and I mean hours and hours, and find it pretty fascinating. But, as you know, there not everyone who posts on an internet topic has the real experience that they try to claim in their posts.
Thanks for asking.
Frank
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Add Kauger Arms to your action list. I prefer cut over button. You don't need to go to a chassis, you can shoot just as far hunting with a good stock.
What rifles do you have right now for deer and elk? Detailed description, including optics please. Depending what you have, you may have to upgrade your glass.
Do you have a place where you can practice at further distances?
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Frank, if I were building I’d use a Classic or P64 magnum action. Trued up, trigger pins replaced/redrilled so the trigger has no slop, bush the firing pin. I’d also make sure you have a full 3.6” magazine box.
I’d put a good barrel like a Krieger, Brux, Bart, Benchmark, etc put on it. I’d do a 1-8 twist in a 2 contour. Minimal shank, or Featherweight style shank with a 23-25” length.
I’d do a Banser, McM, whatever stock that suits you.
Either Featherweight or Sunny Hill Bottom metal
Coated in Nitride or Black T
Today it’d be a Trijicon 3-18 Ten Mile on top in the mounts of your choice.
I’d do a 7 Rem Mag or if you were adventurous a 7x300 Win or 7 Mashburn Super.
You could also do a 300 Win as well. With all the same components listed but maybe add a nice slim line brake if you don’t enjoy recoil.
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Some good info so far. I'd also think seriously about purchasing your own reamer and an extra barrel blank or two.
Too close for irons, switching to scope...
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Frank Don't let these morons run you down, you started a thread based on questions you seek answers for, not answers for some other OP's questions... If some cnt gives you grief ... GFY should be a reasonable response for her/she Scrolling on by is a lost art out here
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Some good info so far. I'd also think seriously about purchasing your own reamer and an extra barrel blank or two. This is great advice. If you do that, get an odd ball or a practical wildcat. 7x300, 6.5x300, gibbs stuff, that'd be real cool.
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Many of the guys running chassis rigs use folding a folding chassis since they plan on the gun being strapped to their pack for a long walk in and hopefully a heavy pack out. Functional.
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"Don't let these morons run you down, you started a thread based on questions you seek answers for, not answers for some other OP's questions...
If some cnt gives you grief ... GFY should be a reasonable response for her/she
Scrolling on by is a lost art out here"
Great advice, but I think it's that crap that's the reason Dober, Pat Sinclair and others are gone. He certainly didn't get me down, but I don't come here to trade insults or do the GFY thing.
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"Don't let these morons run you down, you started a thread based on questions you seek answers for, not answers for some other OP's questions...
If some cnt gives you grief ... GFY should be a reasonable response for her/she
Scrolling on by is a lost art out here"
Great advice, but I think it's that crap that's the reason Dober, Pat Sinclair and others are gone. He certainly didn't get me down, but I don't come here to trade insults or do the GFY thing.
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Frank What’s up with the perpetual whine? You posted a question that literally is the exact same question on the other thread. All I did was try to guide you to the other thread where there are plenty of replies already existing answering your question.
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Frank . I did not see your original post. Missed the part about 800 to 1000. I was thinking more along the lines of 500 and under.. Something like this. https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/15603745/1 Do you have a weight limit in mind.? Do you have a budget? dave
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