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Yup, almost all of those he hired during his administration were Establishment Swamp Creatures. Not only were they Swampers, they were spies gathering whatever they could to take him down.

That was then, this is now, he is still endorsing them, praising them and sucking up to them as if he has convinced himself that they will become his allies if he plays nice and kisses their ass.

Everyone kinda has forgotten about Trump’s right hand man. And he wasn’t an R.

Me too. There is no one else to vote for .. Swammy and Hayley just want power,, Cristie is not even a conservative .. Desantis would be real good but, he isnt getting traction.. Donald Trump is our only hope,, much like the new president of Argentina is . This time, though Donald Trump is going to be a much different person.. He will not trust anyone cause he got burned ,, and he does not forget for a LONG time . He keeps score .

What evidence do you have to support this?

Look at all the Never Trumpers........

You people. You act like Trump had the time to personally hire everyone in his organization that ended up being a backstabbing slimeball. He came into politics without personal knowledge of much except knowing he knew how to run big things, make things happen and get things done, which he did.

He personally hired some, and the vast majority of them are still behind him, and many of them fought daily with some of the establishment hires. The establishment hires came from people already in the system that he trusted and delegated responsibility to. Way too many positions for him to learn about and take care of personally.

Pence was a bad choice. But how many of you were saying that before 2020? I was never a Pence "fan", no reason to be. But I also thought he was okay as vice presidents go before the 2020 pandemic, and then subsequent election. They don't do much. I was wrong, and so were many of you.

IMO if he gets in this time he should put somebody like General Flynn in charge of all the inside hiring. And they still wouldn't get it all right. I mean, you do need some experience in the different fields. Not every position can be filled by your favorite no BS next door neighbor.

That was literally Trump's job, put together a Cabinet etc to serve the American people.

Literally.

And he did...and you guys couldn't stop fawning over his picks.

No. His job was to do what he said he would do. And he done it more than any President in my lifetime. Not even a close contest. We can bitch, or look at results. He done it.

He made a whole lot of good hires. Many of them are still daily fighting for the cause despite the constant harassments and BS it fills their lives with. There is no way a man never in politics can know everything about every person for the jobs upon jobs in an administration. He took care of some of them personally, the others he delegated, as has every President.

His so called "bad" hires are highlighted because of who Trump is. How many "bad" hires do you remember from previous Presidents? Some, but not like Trump. Why? Trump was a 1 man wrecking machine against the status quo. And many even in his own administration couldn't abide by that.

That needs to change. But if you could do better, have at it. In that arena it's like picking a from a field of pit bull puppies. Which one is gonna bite? Who knows. They pretty much all looked and sounded good initially. Some proved they were, others the only reason we now know differently is because they proved they were not.

So, Trump had no responsibility in selecting Pence to No. 2?

Come on. Be honest with yourself. Just because we like the guy doesn't mean that he is the second coming of Christ and does no wrong.

Wasn't Trump a CEO?

One of the big positives of him running was going to be who he put in the Cabinet...

But he had no time to vet VP candidates?

Listen to yourself.

a lot of these guys will put no blame on trump...trump will take no blame for pretty much anything.....I don't care who he picks for vp, if he doesn't clean house on day 1...fires all democraps that he can...then its going to be a long four years.....bob

I already said Pence was a bad choice. Do I hold it against Trump? No. How could he had known. Quiet middle of the road man from the rust belt area with a seemingly conservative track record that wasn't a nuclear bomb in the Senate. People got along with him. The polar opposite of Trump which seemed like a good match. Go along, do your job, and help to tamp down some of the reactionary hysteria to Trump. He seemed dedicated to doing all of that until 2020 came along. Like I said, like picking from a field of pit bull puppies. Which one??

Ok. Now go down the line and see if the bad decisions were commonplace.

And repeated in the same positions.

I dont think there has been an election other than '16 and '20 where I was voting "for" a candidate rather than "against the opposing candidate".

Some. Some not. I don't recall any that stand out that were evident as bad right from the get go. Sneaky swamp does what sneaky swamp is. It's good at hiding and masquerading.

Back in 2016, did you have any posts telling us how bad pence would turn out to be?

Have you not figured out Trumps tactics yet? Come on.
If Trump picked me to be in his cabinet or VP or said I was a great person I would be very worried and constantly looking over my shoulder.

I didn't realize I was making those decisions in 2016.