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We did ours in 2005 overhead was free with one pole I got the well drain field and driveway for $16k 😮
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I recently had a 700 foot by 20 foot drive installed. It was in a pasture, so no trees. 6 inches of rock with a layer of pea gravel on it. $9,025.00.
Our electricity was run from the road and included 2 poles and a 400 amp service. $2,606.00.
Our Septic has to be aerobic. That will run $16,000.00.
The cow is where you are, the bull is where you want to be.
No one gets something for nothing unless someone else got nothing for something.
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Hitting one big rock that needs a hoe ram will instantly double your price. Keep that in mind if you see rocks on neighbors landscapes.
I would not buy something that runs on any kind of primer given the possibility of primer shortages and even regulations. In fact, why not buy a flintlock? Really. Rocks aren't going away anytime soon.
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RESEARCH before jumping.
A friend gave his daughter an acre by his house to set a trailer on.
They never considered electricity as an issue, the REA lines were right there,
the lines and his house within 75 yards.
They bought a used trailer, excavated it's spot, lined it with plastic, filled with stone,
poured pillers.....all the BS our then new code required. $10k plus added cost.
Remodeled it using cords run from Daddy's garage.
Called REA to come run the power.
Guy showed up, looked around and left.
Then came back and surveyed the lot.
A Penelect guy showed up and they had a powwow.
"Ugh, we can't hook you up. Your trailer sits in Penelec's area, this guy
can help you. Sorry."
It was several hundred yards and $20k to those lines.
They required a huge "To the sky" ROW, or underground, either way it was the
same money. These kids ran out of money (plus they are wierd) and gave up.
The trailer has sat abandoned for 10 years.
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
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Our Septic has to be aerobic. That will run $16,000.00. Damn. Is it real hard to dig there? Mine was half that cost.
Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
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Where I am (East TN) the electricity provider installs power the first 150ft for free and it is $8 a foot over that. A couple just bought a 9 acre tract next to me and their house is going to be 1,100ft off the road. I am figuring at least $40K to get power, water, ethernet, and gravel drive back there and it is all pastureland with no trees involved.
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Depends....
What are the required pole heights?
My mechanic had a pole knocked down in a storm but since the time he put up the first one the town increased the required pole height by 10 ft. And storms have put a premium on poles right now so he has to either bend over and take it or find a way to get a temporary reconnect approved until prices go back down.
-OMotS
"If memory serves fails me..."
Quote: ( unnamed) "been prtty deep in the cooler todaay "
Television and radio are most effective when people question little and think even less.
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8 years ago I paid a contractor $9k to bring in electric roughly 550 feet. He buried the cable using a ditchwitch. Our local electric company installed the pole next to the road, no cost to me. You were robbed.
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Our Septic has to be aerobic. That will run $16,000.00. Damn. Is it real hard to dig there? Mine was half that cost. All depends on system types. Around here they're requiring a low pressure system that uses a pump to pump to a lateral field. Uses 2 concrete tanks and right now concrete is at a premium. My lateral field has about 600' of laterals plus the 200' of line to get from the tanks to the field. My system is set up to pump every 182 gallons. Pump shuts off and what's left in the lone drains back into the tank so it doesn't freeze.
The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!
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Our Septic has to be aerobic. That will run $16,000.00. Damn. Is it real hard to dig there? Mine was half that cost. was it a pressure dose?......bob
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Very good reply above by rockinbar. Two personal experiences indicate that such costs may vary greatly depending on your conditions - location/distance, nature of the property/land and position of the providers.
In one instance, property was at the very end of a long leg on the power grid and in a very remote location, but the jump from nearest link was not long. Year 1999. The cost to install poles/lines/transformer was less than $3,000 - by the rural electric coop - a very user-friendly outfit at the time. In 2001, at a populated rural/suburban location and with a much bigger electric company, a run/install of half the above distance was quoted at about $40,000. No wiggle room - take it or leave it. Left it, but for other reasons.
In some places it may be fairly easy to find a decent road contractor who needs work, has good equipment and sources and can do the job well and soon. Competition is a big factor, along with rep - but that seems the best way if you can manage it. Confronted with such a need in that noted remote setting, and with only otherwise able rancher type guys who "might be able to manage doing that with a borrowed trailer and my tractor", I decided to become a first-time road builder. Had built a heavy 20 ft. dump trailer that would haul 8 yards of rock, yanked it with a big Dodge/Cummins and went about 60 miles to get material. Our road was only about 1/2 mile of single track including two short legs near the house, but quite a bit of work for one guy.
Scraped/leveled/slightly crowned the routes, shoved up a bit of berm or made runoff paths as needed and then dumped/spread rock - first layer larger/heavier stuff (got a bunch of material which had been ripped up from a previous highway) and got it well-packed down, then a solid layer of 3 inch rock well packed, then a run of 1 inch and finally some smaller stuff with good fines. We wound up with the best section of roadway for miles - but was only our entrance way. Then, sold that monster trailer for almost what we paid to have it built - and never had an issue with the road.
Where we are now - rather flat and hardly any bad weather - just call and order sized rock 20 tons at a time, truck drives in and rough spreads it, I finish spread/cleanup with a JD 970 and then watch a ball game. Still have that big 2000 Dodge, but now sometimes wonder why. great info BUT you need to know what the soil base is , clay,rock,gravel,, how deep is topsoil . what are you goin to do with the overburden, keep it for a garden or fill low spots. trenchers work well in apppropreate soils , local bylaws for buring hydro lines. Ditching driveway for water runoff, minimum 12 feet wide for drive plus turnaround at house or garage shop. As mentioned above proper build of driveway now saves money later, remember all the heavy trucks that will be delivering lumber concreat plus and they need that turning area. I could go on but you are getting the idea, I am in the business as are a few other guys on here. Good luck on your future. Norm
There is not enough darkness in all the world to put out the light of even one small candle----Robert Alden .
If it wern't entertaining, I wouldn't keep coming back.------the BigSky
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Aerobic septic system..
![[Linked Image from lonestaras.com]](https://www.lonestaras.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/tank-labels.jpg) We have to install this type in some instances along the coastal region here in Florida. Depending on what all is required, these systems can run right up to near $30k although most are closer to $20k.
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8 years ago I paid a contractor $9k to bring in electric roughly 550 feet. He buried the cable using a ditchwitch. Our local electric company installed the pole next to the road, no cost to me. You were robbed. Don't know how you figure he was robbed. Last property I developed in Montana was like 10 years back. Power company charged me $5,000.00 for a 500ft run. I did the dig myself with a leased excavator, I had to buy and install the conduit (3 inch), buy and install a 1/4 inch pull rope and buy and install the gravel bed for the transformer vault. At $9k his contactor was somewhere between spot on to cheap.
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Our Septic has to be aerobic. That will run $16,000.00. Damn. Is it real hard to dig there? Mine was half that cost. Too much clay in the soil. More of a drainage issue.
The cow is where you are, the bull is where you want to be.
No one gets something for nothing unless someone else got nothing for something.
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Had friends looking to buy a lot here three years ago. The spot for the house was 700ft from the road. Powered at the road. They were quoted 26k to run power 700ft.
It's good to lead - it's better to lead by example.
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RESEARCH before jumping.
A friend gave his daughter an acre by his house to set a trailer on.
They never considered electricity as an issue, the REA lines were right there,
the lines and his house within 75 yards.
They bought a used trailer, excavated it's spot, lined it with plastic, filled with stone,
poured pillers.....all the BS our then new code required. $10k plus added cost.
Remodeled it using cords run from Daddy's garage.
Called REA to come run the power.
Guy showed up, looked around and left.
Then came back and surveyed the lot.
A Penelect guy showed up and they had a powwow.
"Ugh, we can't hook you up. Your trailer sits in Penelec's area, this guy
can help you. Sorry."
It was several hundred yards and $20k to those lines.
They required a huge "To the sky" ROW, or underground, either way it was the
same money. These kids ran out of money (plus they are wierd) and gave up.
The trailer has sat abandoned for 10 years. Kind of how we are, my side of the road is rural electric coop and the other side 40' away is the main supplier for municipalities in the KCMO area.
The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!
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"... Still have that big 2000 Dodge, but now sometimes wonder why. ..."
Because you know that if you need something hauled, that truck will do it!...and for a long time!
I've got an '01 with over 400k miles. Never any major work. Runs like a champ. Pulls like a "truck" should!
Until I die, or can no longer drive, it ain't goin' nowhere!
P.S. - you can't get another truck that will do the same work for what you paid for that one.
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Our Septic has to be aerobic. That will run $16,000.00. Damn. Is it real hard to dig there? Mine was half that cost. Had that problem...kinda! This red clay won't "perc"! A leach field of appropriate size couldn't be constructed. An aerobic system was also costly. Thankfully, the state allowed a "lagoon"! I recoiled at the thought! I didn't want one on my property! F-i-l suggested dumping sewage in the ditch! 😳 "Everybody else does!" No way! Finally gave in to a lagoon! Most trouble free waste system I've ever seen! No muss! No fuss! No odors! No stoppages! No overflows! No backups! .....AND.....affordable! Check with your state's DEQ.
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