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Won the Battle of Manassas (first battle) and could have gone into Washington and gathered up Lincoln but Beaugregard wouldn't authorize Lee to pursue the Yanks that ran with their tails betwixt their legs!!
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Unlike military leaders today (Gen. Milley in particular), R.E.Lee was a leader with class and respectability. I've heard that Lee actually had the war won at some point, but because he was a "gentleman", victory slipped away. As I understand it, Lee didn't give his officers "orders". His commands were more like "suggestions" and his officers pretty much went off on their own. A lack of direction and coordination led to Lee's downfall. As I understand it, Lee being a Confederate wasn't necessarily his choice, but more a factor of his location when the war broke out. Wasn't Lee also a West Point grad? I could be wrong, but I don’t think Lee’s orders to Liongstreet, on day 3 at Gettysburg, was a suggestion. Perhaps that was the case in other circumstances, in other battles. Lee had the damyankys whipped day 2 if things would’ve set off that morning instead of dicking around 😉😉
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Lee's horse Traveller had more integrity than 90% of the politicians in DC do today.
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Lee's undoing was his aristocratic planter class loyalty. He could not abandon, a not so important, Virginia for a greater strategy to save the entire South. State's loyalty was a very big mental block throughout the South that precluded a wise, unified plan of attack and attrition. The planters were the richest men in the world. Their arrogant mentality failed miserably, diplomatically, by barring the sympathetic western states from commerce on the Mississippi. That steady food and supply, and political backing, would have made the Gettysburg gamble unnecessary. Similarly, Lee's lack of appreciation for deep south, non aristocratic, agriculture was fatal. Lee's biggest failure was fighting toe to toe with a great industrial power with plenty of reserves. He didn't have to win any big battles, just hit and run, harass and evade. Public opinion in the North favored secession as it was widely understood at the time the Union was a voluntary, mutually beneficial arrangement until it wasn't. The clock was Lee's greatest ally. But he was in a hurry.
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I often wandered after Chancellorsville even though we lost TJ what would have happened staying on the defense??
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"I never thought I'd live to see the day that a U.S. president would raise an army to invade his own country." Robert E. Lee
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I would think so since his birthday is the 19th (1807)
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You look great on that horse with perfect riding posture. I wish my wife’s relative Stonewall Jackson would have made it with you until the end. Thank you for your awesome service.
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