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But it could have been a Husqavarna!The St. Joseph County Prosecutor’s Office said since it can't prove the shooting wasn't a justifiable homicide, no criminal charges will be filed in connection with the shooting, the station said. I can't imagine living where that attitude from your local government is what you face when you have to defend yourself with deadly force.
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shooting yesterday in Marion County. Elderly father shoots and kills step son. The man says his step son balled up his fists during an argument, and he had to defend himself. Prosecutor declined to press charges, saying that there was not enough evidence to indicate that the father was not defending himself. Of course the other party is dead, and can't comment. Coppers said both parties were drunk.
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it isn't clear if the chainsaw was operating at the time. If it was battery operated, it could be started with just a push of a button. That makes it an assault saw. Was it black?
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No but it had a high capacity battery so...
There is no reason for a high capacity battery unless you're just intent on killing someone.
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But it could have been a Husqavarna!The St. Joseph County Prosecutor’s Office said since it can't prove the shooting wasn't a justifiable homicide, no criminal charges will be filed in connection with the shooting, the station said. I can't imagine living where that attitude from your local government is what you face when you have to defend yourself with deadly force. No, you’re wrong and that is exactly the correct attitude and legal standard. It was presumed to be a justifiable homicide and since they can’t prove differently, so it shall remain.
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But it could have been a Husqavarna!The St. Joseph County Prosecutor’s Office said since it can't prove the shooting wasn't a justifiable homicide, no criminal charges will be filed in connection with the shooting, the station said. I can't imagine living where that attitude from your local government is what you face when you have to defend yourself with deadly force. No, you’re wrong and that is exactly the correct attitude and legal standard. It was presumed to be a justifiable homicide and since they can’t prove differently, so it shall remain. It's called the presumption of innocence. You're innocent until proven guilty. They didn't have any evidence of murder so he's presumed to be innocent.
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Marcel Ledbetter was unavailable for comment.
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Marcel Ledbetter was unavailable for comment. Ya know they GAVE Marcel that Bar!
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Marcel had a McCullough saw, back when they were a decent product
We know this because Jerry said it started right off and cut right through the bar door and didn't stall out. Marcel was also a pulpwood cutter and used his saw for his business Shows how long ago the "incident " was
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If it was a Stihl, the homicide was not justified, because the saw couldn't be started. You did notice they said it couldn't be determined if it was running or not. I'm betting I'm right.
OK- that's a joke sort of. Guy of age confronting someone advancing with an instrument of destruction in a threatening manner ...yep. roomtemp time.
On his own property even, with a tool stolen from homeowner.. Bet the perp was Norwegian.
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But it could have been a Husqavarna!The St. Joseph County Prosecutor’s Office said since it can't prove the shooting wasn't a justifiable homicide, no criminal charges will be filed in connection with the shooting, the station said. I can't imagine living where that attitude from your local government is what you face when you have to defend yourself with deadly force. No, you’re wrong and that is exactly the correct attitude and legal standard. It was presumed to be a justifiable homicide and since they can’t prove differently, so it shall remain. It's called the presumption of innocence. You're innocent until proven guilty. They didn't have any evidence of murder so he's presumed to be innocent. The prosecutors want to convict for murder if they could find ( wheedle) a way.
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