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Originally Posted by shootbrownelk
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You could buy that.........or you could save a pile of cash and use the adapter that works just fine from these guys:

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Adapters are fine for messing around at the range, but are you going to trust your life to a friggin' wad of rubber pushed up the action of your shotgun? I bought one, and it fell out under recoil.

Why would you use a mini shell for self defense?


Tain't much different than a 2 3/4".
1" difference = less recoil and better performance at close range is what I heard.

You sound like you work for Hornady's marketing dept.


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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
For purposes of just messing with everyone's mind...

I'm not now, nor have I ever been much of a fan of 00 Buck.

00 Buck = avg. 32 caliber

#4 Buck = avg. 24 caliber

Most people use the 2 3/4" 00 Buck for defense shotguns. They have 9 pellets in them usually. The 3" 00 Buck loads have 15 pellets.

I like and use #4 Buck. The Federal Mini #4 Buck has 15 pellets. A standard for 2 3/4" is 27 pellets, and for 3" shells... 41 pellets.

For home defense where I'd need a shotgun, I don't need or want 00 Buck. I prefer the many more pellets that come in #4 Buck loads.... If I need longer range where 00 Buck is better, I'm probably running a rifle. But up close, I don't need anything but 4 Buck.

Flame away. grin

Back in the day when I was serving as an embassy guard, we carried 4 Buck in our shotguns. It's a good load for interior distances.

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I bought one about 3 weeks ago, mine has a 20” barrel hold 13+1 of shorty’s and screw in chokes and optic ready. When I have time I’ll play with it.

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Originally Posted by limofarm
I bought one about 3 weeks ago, mine has a 20” barrel hold 13+1 of shorty’s and screw in chokes and optic ready. When I have time I’ll play with it.
Cool. Let us know. I ordered the one I depicted in the opening post due to the handier 18.5" barrel. Nine seems like a lot of rounds for a shorty like that loaded with Federal No. 4 buck.

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"My 870 carries 8 rounds,,,,,,,,, how am I handicapped with that gun compared to one that holds mini shells?"

12 targets, 8 of them blowed to hell n back with the 2 3/4 shells. Or "all" of them blowed to hell a bit less.

We're gettin back to the argument of 8 rounds of 45 vs. 12 rounds of 9mm. What's winning that argument these days.

In this day in time with all the high cap guns, how can we argue against this concept. I don't care for one, but some might.

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I would not buy anything else made by keltec, but that 12 ga must have over 500 rounds through it, and it cycled every time flawlessly.


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Originally Posted by granitestate1
I would not buy anything else made by keltec, but that 12 ga must have over 500 rounds through it, and it cycled every time flawlessly.

Thats cool.

I was skeptical once you said KelTec. Glad you have had good luck with it.


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It will also take 13 3 inch shells.

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Originally Posted by granitestate1
It will also take 12 3 inch shells.

That might be a little....energetic!


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Originally Posted by earlybrd
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Never understood the purpose of mini shells


Ever shoot any?
Mini shells no


Use them for pig hunting, slug over dogs and 4 buck for the rest, hi capacity and low recoil, even pig was DRT

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What the hell are you guys doing that takes 25 mini shells to kill? If it takes that many rounds, you must work in an urban police department. Fact - If you don’t hit it in the first shot or two, you aren’t going to with 23 more.

All this is just as Jim said, a slick marketing campaign, and you fell for it!


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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Want more capacity, buy an extender
Then lose the handling characteristics of an 18" barrel pump shotgun.

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Actually 25 mini shells come along handy, when you are hunting squirrels and they are on the move tapping from tree to tree. And I would rather carry them in the magazine ready to go than in a box or a pouch hanging off me. I did not buy it for home defence it is only after the fact that I realised that my wife could handle it and would make for a better option for home defence.


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Gawd almighty...what's it weigh with 25 rounds?


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Don't forget they are minis and the gun is light from the get go, I don't carry them for that long before the weight reduction starts.


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Originally Posted by scottryan
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Fixin’ stuff that ain’t broke.

You said a mouthful there Dan.


I don't know why anyone wouldn't want to keep ammunition around that won't work in the vast majority firearms today.


Its a range novelty.

No, it serves a very specific purpose. It's loaded and kept under the bed. If someone(s) breaks into your home you'll have maximum opportunities to stop them. Not sure what's so hard to understand.

...But I guess to be rounding the corner on 60k posts here, a guy needs to comment on anything and everything...carry on.

Not sure whats going to be left after 8 rounds of 2 3/4 inch 00 buck to worry about. "Not sure what's so hard to understand"

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And then you're still left owning a mossberg.

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It sounds like none of you have ever seen a nest of 20-30 aggressive squirrels.

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