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Endorsing Trump kills the rumor he was pushed to be Haley's VP It does, I am pleased that I was wrong. You should be perpetually happy.  I will be even happier if more of my prediction are proven wrong.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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The biggest difference is with the middle/independent voters, the ones who either didn't vote for Trump in the last election or actually voted for Biden. He would have gotten more of their votes than Trump. Bidens votes were from total left wing loons, dead people and the extra mail in ballots printed on election night. I don't see DeSantis getting any of those votes.
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Celebrate all you want but DeSantis would have beaten Biden in a landslide.
He would have gotten all the Republican/conservative voters plus most of the middle/independent voters. People on the fence when it comes to voting for Trump would have voted for DeSantis in a second.
Say what you will, but DeSantis was the best Governor in the US during the Covid lockdowns when it came to protecting individual freedom. Trump rolled over and let Fauci dictate the Covid response. You really shouldn't speak for all conservatives. Desantis is on about the same par as Bush when it comes to being a conservative.....he isn't. For me voting for the lesser of two evils is no longer an option and that's what Desantis represented to me. Just another career politician. I suspected DeSantis might be a 'plant' - to implant a RINO into the White House in the future. And still believe he might be. The conniving Beltway Boys plan ahead ----->>> way ahead. We all know according to elections stats it always flips back and forth from dem to gop so when it flips to gop >> here's the man for the job >> DeSantis. < The smiling lawyer. The flipping back and forth in elections cycles keeps folks thinking voting is legit .. OVER...... Maybe, but I think if they wanted to plant DeSantis, they wouldn't have had him enter the 2024 race. They would have propped him up and convinced Trump to prop him up as well.. Instead they had him shoot his wad way to early.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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The Democrats and their media stalwarts knew that DeSantis was going to be the real challenger to Biden and they worked to wing and discredit him early. DeSantis with a good VP pick would have been tough to beat for Biden.
Did you notice early on that you rarely heard or saw direct quotes and footage of DeSantis? The media has developed a tactic of grabbing out of context snippets of Republican candidates in an effort to try to miss-define them early on. The candidates then spend the rest of their campaign with a monkey on their back trying to shed the stigma and have difficulty getting their message and platform heard.
The Democrats know that they'll succeed in having Trump disqualified as a candidate, before the general election.
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Nobody left to split the vote. Does DeSantis voters go for Haley or do they go for Trump. I can't see DeSantis voters seeing anything of value in Haley. you do realize there are a number of "DeSantis voters" , some here no doubt, that are Never Trumpers and will vote for Haley in the primary and either vote third party, not vote, or maybe even vote D in the general election...............don't you?
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Celebrate all you want but DeSantis would have beaten Biden in a landslide.
He would have gotten all the Republican/conservative voters plus most of the middle/independent voters. People on the fence when it comes to voting for Trump would have voted for DeSantis in a second.
Say what you will, but DeSantis was the best Governor in the US during the Covid lockdowns when it came to protecting individual freedom. Trump rolled over and let Fauci dictate the Covid response. You really shouldn't speak for all conservatives. Desantis is on about the same par as Bush when it comes to being a conservative.....he isn't. For me voting for the lesser of two evils is no longer an option and that's what Desantis represented to me. Just another career politician. do you think trump is a conservative?......trump is a career politician also.....hes been campaigning for years.....a lot of people voted for trump as the lesser of two evils.....I am glad trump is going to be the nominee, I don't think we should throw Desantis under the bus. bob
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The biggest difference is with the middle/independent voters, the ones who either didn't vote for Trump in the last election or actually voted for Biden. He would have gotten more of their votes than Trump. Bidens votes were from total left wing loons, dead people and the extra mail in ballots printed on election night. I don't see DeSantis getting any of those votes. And maybe this........ https://www.infowars.com/posts/elec...-using-only-a-pen-to-change-vote-totals/
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You really think Bush or a Rino governor would have shipped illegals from Florida to blue sanctuary cities? Do you think they would have gone after Disney or fought to keep their state open during Covid? DeSantis is way more conservative than any Rino politician. Just cause some idiot talking head says that DeSantis is just another Rino doesn't mean you should believe them. DeSantis does not govern like a Rino. I hope desantis comes back from all of this....he should not have ran this time around......bob
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The Democrats and their media stalwarts knew that DeSantis was going to be the real challenger to Biden and they worked to wing and discredit him early. DeSantis with a good VP pick would have been tough to beat for Biden.
Did you notice early on that you rarely heard or saw direct quotes and footage of DeSantis? The media has developed a tactic of grabbing out of context snippets of Republican candidates in an effort to try to miss-define them early on. The candidates then spend the rest of their campaign with a monkey on their back trying to shed the stigma and have difficulty getting their message and platform heard.
The Democrats know that they'll succeed in having Trump disqualified as a candidate, before the general election. Lol..
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Nobody left to split the vote. Does DeSantis voters go for Haley or do they go for Trump. I can't see DeSantis voters seeing anything of value in Haley. you do realize there are a number of "DeSantis voters" , some here no doubt, that are Never Trumpers and will vote for Haley in the primary and either vote third party, not vote, or maybe even vote D in the general election...............don't you? sure there are, the question is how many. I also think there are many DeSantis voters who saw him as a more reasonable Trump, and now that he is gone, they aren't going to let Haley come in and be Jeb Bush, Hillary and Romney all rolled into one. It was the reason I asked the question. I question whether this really helps Haley in New Hampshire
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Celebrate all you want but DeSantis would have beaten Biden in a landslide.
He would have gotten all the Republican/conservative voters plus most of the middle/independent voters. People on the fence when it comes to voting for Trump would have voted for DeSantis in a second.
Say what you will, but DeSantis was the best Governor in the US during the Covid lockdowns when it came to protecting individual freedom. Trump rolled over and let Fauci dictate the Covid response. You really shouldn't speak for all conservatives. Desantis is on about the same par as Bush when it comes to being a conservative.....he isn't. For me voting for the lesser of two evils is no longer an option and that's what Desantis represented to me. Just another career politician. do you think trump is a conservative?......trump is a career politician also.....hes been campaigning for years.....a lot of people voted for trump as the lesser of two evils.....I am glad trump is going to be the nominee, I don't think we should throw Desantis under the bus. bob GFY Nikki
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DeSantis has governed Florida a lot more conservatively than Trump governed our country. I don't think he pulls middle of the road voters. They would toast him on abortion. Complete BS, but the leftists bite on that issue.
The presidential campaign for 2028 will start in 2026, he'll finish the governorship and go right into next prez campaign.
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We need more than four years. Sure for a start, but.
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NOW, this is gonna get interesting. Trump will be the nominee unless they kill him.
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NOW, this is gonna get interesting. Trump will be the nominee unless they kill him. He's gonna be the president unless the kill him or parachute Michelle into the dem convention.
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NOW, this is gonna get interesting. Trump will be the nominee unless they kill him. He's gonna be the president unless the kill him or parachute Michelle into the dem convention. I'm sure the Dems are going over a number of scenarios right now.
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NOW, this is gonna get interesting. Trump will be the nominee unless they kill him. He's gonna be the president unless the kill him or parachute Michelle into the dem convention. I'm sure the Dems are going over a number of scenarios right now. And the hell of it is it doesnt matter who they run, they are going over scenarios on how to steal this election too.
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
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Of course they are in steal mode, they have zero places to hang their hat when it comes to everyday Americans. LGB
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He lost my support once he donned the beanie at the wailing wall and signed Florida legislation while in Israel violating the free speech rights of Floridians if Jews took offense to anything said.
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He lost my support once he donned the beanie at the wailing wall and signed Florida legislation while in Israel violating the free speech rights of Floridians if Jews took offense to anything said. He won't be able to unring that bell.
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