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Originally Posted by TimberRunner
A lead dove load would dishrag that drone.



#4 second shot, to put an exclamation point on it. 😄


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Damn. The drone operators better have a good exit plan if their side loses. Videos like that could get your ass strung up from a lamp post at some point in the future, if things don't go your side's way.

Makes me want to take a close look at my shotguns. A couple of 12 gauge pumps with 18 or 20 inch barrels and threaded for chokes could be handy.

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That’s pretty chicken [bleep]; killing an unarmed man like that. I know, “but Ukraine!”


Well, he should have armed himself

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Damn. The drone operators better have a good exit plan if their side loses. Videos like that could get your ass strung up from a lamp post at some point in the future, if things don't go your side's way.

Looks a lot like a war crime in that video.


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I wonder what ability there is to track the signals?

Unless they are like Predators?
Where in theater guys launch and maintain them, and distant operators
control them.


There have to be signals to be detected and tracked.
The Nazis did excellent work tracking radios signals, hunting Partisans.

Do we have Counter Drone capability, that mirrors the radar counter artillery.

Or like Wild Weasels?
Use the signals they use against you to kill them.

If not, we need to be moving that way fast.


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Indeed. Beretta 1301 needs a workout.

How do you like it? Been on my radar lately as something I need to add to the shopping list.



Teal, I haven't shot it yet. That's why I said it needs a workout. I wanted a good optic and scoured the internet for one for a while. Ended up picking up an Aimpoint H2 micro 2MOA and a TAC Aridus Aimpoint micro cowitness mount. CROM-1301T-T2.

For now, I've got a Rem 870 Tactical loaded for bear and '56 Win Model 12 on deck.

How about you?

Well I'm fair to midlin with the CXS and I have the Garand here too, in case any of those dog looking Darpa robots come running. Course there's the AR and 2 different 1911's ready too.


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Is this video real or just an AI video game?

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Originally Posted by Ben_Lurkin
That’s pretty chicken [bleep]; killing an unarmed man like that. I know, “but Ukraine!”


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Originally Posted by Ben_Lurkin
That’s pretty chicken [bleep]; killing an unarmed man like that. I know, “but Ukraine!”
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Originally Posted by Ben_Lurkin
That’s pretty chicken [bleep]; killing an unarmed man like that. I know, “but Ukraine!”


Well, he should have armed himself

He did. With a tank.


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Probably need more spread than 00 or 000 can give. I'd go with #4 buckshot.

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Originally Posted by TimberRunner
Is this video real or just an AI video game?

That’s real and it’s happening A LOT right now in Ukraine.

I started a thread a month or so ago stating that shotguns would be the best defense against these drones. Seems that idea is catching on.

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Don't know much about drones, but I have a Blue Dot, 3 3/4 dram 1 1/4 oz. of number 5's load that's just devastating to anything within range of an IC, & especially a LM choke.
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I’d probably load hardened 5 shot. IC choke. Keep a few heavy, buffered loads for the far stuff.

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey
Originally Posted by TimberRunner
Is this video real or just an AI video game?

That’s real and it’s happening A LOT right now in Ukraine.

I started a thread a month or so ago stating that shotguns would be the best defense against these drones. Seems that idea is catching on.


I don't doubt it's happening, but posted video has a multiple whiffs of fake.

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8's would take down hobby drones. I don't know about the strength of military grade drones so magnum 4's just in case.

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Not to rain on any parade, but looking a bit closer at the manner of dress of the person being pursued and the body language, might it be possible that the person in that picture was a woman, maybe even a civilian, maybe even a Ukrainian who might have been checking out an abandoned Russian tank?

Just asking, trying to make sense of what I was looking at.


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The statute of limitations is over on this. I watched a Winchester AA 7.5 crush a giant Canada during dove season that was 25 yards above us. No doubt that drone would suffer a similar fate.

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Would a 5.45x39 loaded with snake shot work?



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Originally Posted by TimberRunner
Originally Posted by Jeffrey
Originally Posted by TimberRunner
Is this video real or just an AI video game?

That’s real and it’s happening A LOT right now in Ukraine.

I started a thread a month or so ago stating that shotguns would be the best defense against these drones. Seems that idea is catching on.


I don't doubt it's happening, but posted video has a multiple whiffs of fake.

There are hundreds of videos of simple, civilian type drones dropping simple munitions on soldiers. The drone in this video is what they call an FPV or “kamikaze” drone. Many many videos of these as well, and they all seem to have some Norwegia-rigged triggering device on them. This is a crazy world we’re living in and that video is very real.

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