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What would be the value of this rifle? It’s a 375 h&h in excellent condition. Thanks
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You cant hardly find them in good shape for less than $2000.00.
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You cant hardly find them in good shape for less than $2000.00.
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The 416 458 ones seem to go quick. A ton of gun for the money.
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They are wanting 1850 plus tax which would be a little over 2k out the door. Thanks for the input so far.
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I found the 375 rsm too heavy for a 375 - especially the earlier ones with the barrel band captured in the stock. But they are beautiful rifles, and it is getting harder to find nice examples like the one shown.
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They are wanting 1850 plus tax which would be a little over 2k out the door. Thanks for the input so far. I’d pick it up if I were you. They are only going up in value since no longer made. These are the finest bolt rifles made by a major American manufacturer IMHO.
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They are wanting 1850 plus tax which would be a little over 2k out the door. Thanks for the input so far. PM me with the store info if you decide not to buy it. With that scope on board, I’d buy it today. And I don’t even need it. I’ll even toss you fifty bucks as a finder fee.
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It is heavy but that should help with recoil. I already have a whitworth in this caliber but this one caught my eye. It is a beautiful rifle.
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Model 77 MKII RSM made from 1990 to 2010.
Gen 1, about 1990-1997 are the ones with heavy 24" barrels, front sling stud on barrel band inletted into forearm wood.
Gen 2 was in gunshops in 1998 (or before) when I bought the .416 Rigby version, differed only in banded sling stud moved out of wood for usual barrel location. Muzzle diameter was 0.810", 24" barrel, rifle weighed 10.75 lbs bare/unloaded.
Gen 3 came certainly by 2002 when they added the .458 Lott to previous chamberings of .375 H&H and .416 Rigby. With Gen 3 the barrels were slimmed down and shortened to 23".
The Gen 3 .458 Lott I looked at in 2002 had a 0.750" muzzle diameter, 23" barrel and weighed 9.5 pounds. That would have been perfect if only it were chambered in .458 WinMag instead of .458 Lott.
If that .375 H&H has a 23" barrel I would consider it more desirable than the older models. Not as heavy as the older models. If you could measure the muzzle diameter that would be enlightening. Hopefully it's a little slimmer than 0.750" muzzle diameter. A 2023 price was about $2000 for NIB, $1500 for excellent condition. This is a year later so considering the ravages of Bidenomics inflation, $1850 ain't bad.
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This rifle was shipped in 2007 according to the serial number. That would make it a gen 3, is that correct?
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I bought my RSM Lott around 07/08. Ive put it up for sale a couple times asking 2k including a Nikon scope and loading dies. No one took it.
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This rifle was shipped in 2007 according to the serial number. That would make it a gen 3, is that correct? That would be correct. Get a set of your verynear calipers on the end of the barrel where it sticks out ahead of the banded ramp, please. Nice wood grain in the grip of that one. Not a subliminal message: Buy it.
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Nice grain through the buttstock on this one. It is heavy for a 375 but just about perfect for a 450 Rigby. The conversion on this one is not as easy as if it were a 416 Rigby - rebore, open bolt face, alter rails, probably new or modified mag follower and some reshaping of the feed ramp, especially for the flat nose solids like the CEBs.
Bottom line - buy it! Deal with perfecting it later. BTW, slimming the stock by someone who know how to do it changes the character of the rifle decidedly.
A classic and classical American DGR.
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Nice grain through the buttstock on this one. It is heavy for a 375 but just about perfect for a 450 Rigby. The conversion on this one is not as easy as if it were a 416 Rigby - rebore, open bolt face, alter rails, probably new or modified mag follower and some reshaping of the feed ramp, especially for the flat nose solids like the CEBs.
Bottom line - buy it! Deal with perfecting it later. BTW, slimming the stock by someone who know how to do it changes the character of the rifle decidedly.
A classic and classical American DGR. That's a chunk of change to put into a Ruger. I would look used customs if I wanted a larger bore rifle.
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Thanks for the replies. Seems some really like it and some not so much. Being in Alabama I have no use for this caliber other than it being cool. I’m going to check back with the pawnshop in a week and see if I can get a better price.
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Passed one up last March for 1600 and no scope. I didn't think it was worth that but a dealer friend snapped it up and sold it for over 2k 2 wks later.mb
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A legendary rifle,IMO.I have three in 458 Lott.Feeding is awesome, accurate, integral iron sights, good trigger, good recoil pad.It's a no nonsense go to rifle.That said, one can spend thousands of dollars on a custom rifle and still not get one to work as good as a Ruger 77 MK2 Magnum.Someone lately offered to sell me a new 458 Lott out of the box for reg.retail price and I somewhat regret that I declined the offer.
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Swift, you have three all in the same caliber? And I thought I was bad :-)
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Take a look at what they sell regularly for on AfricaHunting.com. Mine is very accurate with 300gr swift a-frames. If you buy it and decide not to keep it I think you could easily get your money back and then some, especially with the scope.
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Nice grain through the buttstock on this one. It is heavy for a 375 but just about perfect for a 450 Rigby. The conversion on this one is not as easy as if it were a 416 Rigby - rebore, open bolt face, alter rails, probably new or modified mag follower and some reshaping of the feed ramp, especially for the flat nose solids like the CEBs.
Bottom line - buy it! Deal with perfecting it later. BTW, slimming the stock by someone who know how to do it changes the character of the rifle decidedly.
A classic and classical American DGR. That's a chunk of change to put into a Ruger. I would look used customs if I wanted a larger bore rifle. Maybe, but well worth it, as then you’ll have a perfect DGR. The factory shipped rifle is good as is and hard to beat, with the changes I described, even with a ‘relatively high-dollar’ custom. Except for the stock modification - in my case done by R J Renner - the rest of the mods are the type that can be done by a user adept at the metal work involved. My specimen is a 1993 Gen 1, with a now 23” barrel done at reboring, started out as a 416 Rigby, with a muzzle brake installed by the prior owner. That’s a piece of gear I despise and couldn’t wait to expunge! To each his own, as a custom DGR has its own appeal. But in today’s world IMHO you can’t get a factory DGR that’s closer to a classic than these M-77 RSMs. YMMV
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Building a custom rifle is an attempt to build something perfect. It doesn't always turn out that way.So many things can go wrong and in the end the factory rifle you want to modify was a better rifle than your custom.
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I’d say it’s worth 2000-2500.
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Building a custom rifle is an attempt to build something perfect. It doesn't always turn out that way.So many things can go wrong and in the end the factory rifle you want to modify was a better rifle than your custom. . I certainly wouldn't use a Ruger 77 action as the basis for a custom. Bill Ruger did some odd things and the M77 recoil lug was one of them. R700 top, M77 bottom
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Nice grain through the buttstock on this one. It is heavy for a 375 but just about perfect for a 450 Rigby. The conversion on this one is not as easy as if it were a 416 Rigby - rebore, open bolt face, alter rails, probably new or modified mag follower and some reshaping of the feed ramp, especially for the flat nose solids like the CEBs.
Bottom line - buy it! Deal with perfecting it later. BTW, slimming the stock by someone who know how to do it changes the character of the rifle decidedly.
A classic and classical American DGR. That's a chunk of change to put into a Ruger. I would look used customs if I wanted a larger bore rifle. Maybe, but well worth it, as then you’ll have a perfect DGR. The factory shipped rifle is good as is and hard to beat, with the changes I described, even with a ‘relatively high-dollar’ custom. Except for the stock modification - in my case done by R J Renner - the rest of the mods are the type that can be done by a user adept at the metal work involved. My specimen is a 1993 Gen 1, with a now 23” barrel done at reboring, started out as a 416 Rigby, with a muzzle brake installed by the prior owner. That’s a piece of gear I despise and couldn’t wait to expunge! To each his own, as a custom DGR has its own appeal. But in today’s world IMHO you can’t get a factory DGR that’s closer to a classic than these M-77 RSMs. YMMV MM does vary and my customized Win M70 416 Rem is perfection to me at 9 1/2# all in, scoped and loaded. McM stock, Wisner front and rear sights, Burris 1.75-5 Signature Safari scope, Feldcamp fluted barrel, bedding and ceracoat. Handles like a dream and is Zimbabwe proven.
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I certainly wouldn't use a Ruger 77 action as the basis for a custom. Bill Ruger did some odd things and the M77 recoil lug was one of them. R700 top, M77 bottom Why heck, for a real custom job put one of them thar Remington M700 washer recoil lugs on the Ruger M77 Hawkeye. Then you will have two recoil lugs, one integral to action and one that is removable, and all of that in a CRF rifle. Win, win.
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They are wanting 1850 plus tax which would be a little over 2k out the door. Thanks for the input so far. great price. GET IT>
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They are wanting 1850 plus tax which would be a little over 2k out the door. Thanks for the input so far. great price. GET IT> This is right. Don’t think about it twice. Just buy it!!
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Ruger 77's have really gone up in price lately. Don't think you can lose on it.
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I shot this 4 shot group offhand at 35yds with my Ruger Lott this afternoon using cast bullets. I am getting ready in case I need to stop a charge-lol.
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Well I called the shop a week after I saw it and it was sold. Probably best for me but thanks for all the encouragement.
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I have a 2010 built rifle in 375 H&H and they are a LOT of gun for the money. The sight ramp is machined with the barrel along with with a superposed bottom bridge between the receiver lug and front barrel recoil lug. Also, Ruger recommends 90 Ft Lbs on that barrel lug machine bolt. Mine was Magnaported and is more pleasant than a 30-06 with 180's at 2800 fps. Mine weighs at about 9.5 lbs with sights. Has been to Africa 3 times. Great rifle. Darrel Wick
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Great rifles, wish you would have bought it, it would be at least two grand alone to have a 'Smith turn a barrel out with integral rib like those, bought a 416 Rigby for 1500 cash out the door in '94, poured over every magazine and book i could read about Africa, went through 500 sticks of Norma brass walking and shooting till i torched the throat, 400gr X, then 350 and 400gr TSX at 2650-2750 fps over imr-4350 will do that.
'Smith told me about throat, i wasn't going to part with the rifle because i liked the barrel and quarter rib so much, i sent rifle to Delta Gun Shop/Clearwater Reboring, they made me a hell of a 505 Gibbs, still have it, and no danger of torching the throat on that beast.
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The RSMs are great rifles for reboring to larger calibers. My 416 Rigby is now a 450 Rigby.
Like it much better so chambered. It was designed and built for a larger caliber IMO, as the weight and balance calls for a true heavy cartridge DGR.
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Yes Sir plenty barrel steel to work with in those rifles, i bet your 450 Rigby is a great rifle to carry and shoot, my RSM as a 505 gibbs is about perfect, i had an original 1920's Britich Gibbs rifle, it was indeed to nice to hunt/shoot with, just couldn't do it, a guy came along with a wad of cash and took it, last i heard it was living in a vault in Montana ; ]
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