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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Not a 457 American, but instead the Varmint model with a heavy 20.5" barrel.

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Nice groups. JB is that a pic of your 457. On my cell the bolt body looks a bit different and the mag looks flush. Is that OEM? Thanks.

Been curious how the varmint WMR shoots.

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Originally Posted by 65BR
Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Not a 457 American, but instead the Varmint model with a heavy 20.5" barrel.

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Nice groups. JB is that a pic of your 457. On my cell the bolt body looks a bit different and the mag looks flush. Is that OEM? Thanks.

Been curious how the varmint WMR shoots.

Ahh…… I might be missing something but this looks like a 557 to me?

……and K22 you must be a super calm/well disciplined squirrel hunter - when ever I take a rifle out with a trigger pull less than 1/2 ponds I often get premature ignition (at least on the first one or two)😄. Just heard yesterday that CZ is going to be bringing out a 457 with a high grade maple stock in the American this year - I know maple isn’t for everyone but if they are truly high grade may just have to add an American to the 457 stable?

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Originally Posted by 65BR
Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Not a 457 American, but instead the Varmint model with a heavy 20.5" barrel.

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Nice groups. JB is that a pic of your 457. On my cell the bolt body looks a bit different and the mag looks flush. Is that OEM? Thanks.

Been curious how the varmint WMR shoots.

That's a centerfire rifle, not a 457. JB probably got confused, when posting the pic.


Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
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Originally Posted by PennDog
Originally Posted by 65BR
Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Not a 457 American, but instead the Varmint model with a heavy 20.5" barrel.

[Linked Image]

Nice groups. JB is that a pic of your 457. On my cell the bolt body looks a bit different and the mag looks flush. Is that OEM? Thanks.

Been curious how the varmint WMR shoots.

Ahh…… I might be missing something but this looks like a 557 to me?

……and K22 you must be a super calm/well disciplined squirrel hunter - when ever I take a rifle out with a trigger pull less than 1/2 ponds I often get premature ignition (at least on the first one or two)😄. Just heard yesterday that CZ is going to be bringing out a 457 with a high grade maple stock in the American this year - I know maple isn’t for everyone but if they are truly high grade may just have to add an American to the 457 stable?

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In trutn PennDog, I am. I learned early on using a KDF double set trigger which they had set for me at 6oz. I would get on target, or on Squirrel, set the trigger then leave my finger out of the trigger guard until I was absolutely ready. Cross were on exactly where I wanted them and then I would just barely touch the trigger. I never used a the safety. With a trigger that light I could stay focused on the crosshairs and use muscle reflex to touch the trigger.
I did take a little bit to get used to it, but a lot of bench shooting was the answer. In all honesty, I never squeezed the trigger. Now when I use a 12oz trigger I feel like I'm squeezing it forever before it breaks.

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You should have bought a 457 when you first seen them bsa.
With a spring change mine is down to a 12oz. trigger pull. I have another spring to take it down to 8oz. if I'm so inclined.
Most of my rimfires run around that 12 to 16oz. pull weight. My old Squirrel rifle is at 6oz. and the Rem. 541/581 is at 9oz.

Sounds good. Does the trigger feel good on the CZ457, after the spring upgrade? Just wondering. I don't like mine to be that light, but I do like a trigger that breaks with little to no creep. That's one thing I like about my new model 52. That trigger is very sweet. Just wondering how the American compares.. As for buying the CZ457 Americans that I saw, I am pretty sure the one small town gunshop still has one. It is 70 miles away, but she gets very little business. I may sneak over there, and see if she still has it. ha ha.. and that one was $600.00, but it was a beautiful rifle.

Yes, it feels real good. Has a nice break to it. I had to adjust the take up and the overtravel to get it where I like them.
I would go buy it. It may give your 52 a run for the money and like the 52's, the CZ is not an UL. Mine with the scope is a shade over 7lbs.

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Originally Posted by K22
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by K22
You should have bought a 457 when you first seen them bsa.
With a spring change mine is down to a 12oz. trigger pull. I have another spring to take it down to 8oz. if I'm so inclined.
Most of my rimfires run around that 12 to 16oz. pull weight. My old Squirrel rifle is at 6oz. and the Rem. 541/581 is at 9oz.

Sounds good. Does the trigger feel good on the CZ457, after the spring upgrade? Just wondering. I don't like mine to be that light, but I do like a trigger that breaks with little to no creep. That's one thing I like about my new model 52. That trigger is very sweet. Just wondering how the American compares.. As for buying the CZ457 Americans that I saw, I am pretty sure the one small town gunshop still has one. It is 70 miles away, but she gets very little business. I may sneak over there, and see if she still has it. ha ha.. and that one was $600.00, but it was a beautiful rifle.

Yes, it feels real good. Has a nice break to it. I had to adjust the take up and the overtravel to get it where I like them.
I would go buy it. It may give your 52 a run for the money and like the 52's, the CZ is not an UL. Mine with the scope is a shade over 7lbs.

Sounds great..


Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
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Originally Posted by K22
Originally Posted by PennDog
Originally Posted by 65BR
Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Not a 457 American, but instead the Varmint model with a heavy 20.5" barrel.

[Linked Image]

Nice groups. JB is that a pic of your 457. On my cell the bolt body looks a bit different and the mag looks flush. Is that OEM? Thanks.

Been curious how the varmint WMR shoots.

Ahh…… I might be missing something but this looks like a 557 to me?

……and K22 you must be a super calm/well disciplined squirrel hunter - when ever I take a rifle out with a trigger pull less than 1/2 ponds I often get premature ignition (at least on the first one or two)😄. Just heard yesterday that CZ is going to be bringing out a 457 with a high grade maple stock in the American this year - I know maple isn’t for everyone but if they are truly high grade may just have to add an American to the 457 stable?

PennDog

In trutn PennDog, I am. I learned early on using a KDF double set trigger which they had set for me at 6oz. I would get on target, or on Squirrel, set the trigger then leave my finger out of the trigger guard until I was absolutely ready. Cross were on exactly where I wanted them and then I would just barely touch the trigger. I never used a the safety. With a trigger that light I could stay focused on the crosshairs and use muscle reflex to touch the trigger.
I did take a little bit to get used to it, but a lot of bench shooting was the answer. In all honesty, I never squeezed the trigger. Now when I use a 12oz trigger I feel like I'm squeezing it forever before it breaks.

That’s sweet K22 - that is a place that many never see - I know what you say but have yet to achieve!

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Originally Posted by K22
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Originally Posted by K22
You should have bought a 457 when you first seen them bsa.
With a spring change mine is down to a 12oz. trigger pull. I have another spring to take it down to 8oz. if I'm so inclined.
Most of my rimfires run around that 12 to 16oz. pull weight. My old Squirrel rifle is at 6oz. and the Rem. 541/581 is at 9oz.

Sounds good. Does the trigger feel good on the CZ457, after the spring upgrade? Just wondering. I don't like mine to be that light, but I do like a trigger that breaks with little to no creep. That's one thing I like about my new model 52. That trigger is very sweet. Just wondering how the American compares.. As for buying the CZ457 Americans that I saw, I am pretty sure the one small town gunshop still has one. It is 70 miles away, but she gets very little business. I may sneak over there, and see if she still has it. ha ha.. and that one was $600.00, but it was a beautiful rifle.

Yes, it feels real good. Has a nice break to it. I had to adjust the take up and the overtravel to get it where I like them.
I would go buy it. It may give your 52 a run for the money and like the 52's, the CZ is not an UL. Mine with the scope is a shade over 7lbs.
Originally Posted by K22
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by K22
You should have bought a 457 when you first seen them bsa.
With a spring change mine is down to a 12oz. trigger pull. I have another spring to take it down to 8oz. if I'm so inclined.
Most of my rimfires run around that 12 to 16oz. pull weight. My old Squirrel rifle is at 6oz. and the Rem. 541/581 is at 9oz.

Sounds good. Does the trigger feel good on the CZ457, after the spring upgrade? Just wondering. I don't like mine to be that light, but I do like a trigger that breaks with little to no creep. That's one thing I like about my new model 52. That trigger is very sweet. Just wondering how the American compares.. As for buying the CZ457 Americans that I saw, I am pretty sure the one small town gunshop still has one. It is 70 miles away, but she gets very little business. I may sneak over there, and see if she still has it. ha ha.. and that one was $600.00, but it was a beautiful rifle.

Yes, it feels real good. Has a nice break to it. I had to adjust the take up and the overtravel to get it where I like them.
I would go buy it. It may give your 52 a run for the money and like the 52's, the CZ is not an UL. Mine with the scope is a shade over 7lbs.

I just picked up my CZ 457 American on the 15th, 6 lbs naked with the mud stock. It came with a factory trigger pull set at 4lbs 6oz that I adjusted down to 2lbs 2oz without charging any springs in it, the factory trigger does have a nice clean break and it’s for hunting so for now it’s set the same as the Timney in my deer rifle. You said you had a gritty bolt in yours, check the bolt bottom where the serial number is engraved into it, mine was very rough and I had to polish it to remove that grittiness out of the bolt, the engraving is so deep you can’t hurt it. I’ve put about a hundred rounds through it with my grandson and the bolt’s very smooth now. One thing that I just noticed today is that the plating on the end and sides of the firing pin is pealing off, if you’re having any light strikes or misfires you might want to take a look at it.

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Originally Posted by Namuh
Originally Posted by K22
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by K22
You should have bought a 457 when you first seen them bsa.
With a spring change mine is down to a 12oz. trigger pull. I have another spring to take it down to 8oz. if I'm so inclined.
Most of my rimfires run around that 12 to 16oz. pull weight. My old Squirrel rifle is at 6oz. and the Rem. 541/581 is at 9oz.

Sounds good. Does the trigger feel good on the CZ457, after the spring upgrade? Just wondering. I don't like mine to be that light, but I do like a trigger that breaks with little to no creep. That's one thing I like about my new model 52. That trigger is very sweet. Just wondering how the American compares.. As for buying the CZ457 Americans that I saw, I am pretty sure the one small town gunshop still has one. It is 70 miles away, but she gets very little business. I may sneak over there, and see if she still has it. ha ha.. and that one was $600.00, but it was a beautiful rifle.

Yes, it feels real good. Has a nice break to it. I had to adjust the take up and the overtravel to get it where I like them.
I would go buy it. It may give your 52 a run for the money and like the 52's, the CZ is not an UL. Mine with the scope is a shade over 7lbs.
Originally Posted by K22
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by K22
You should have bought a 457 when you first seen them bsa.
With a spring change mine is down to a 12oz. trigger pull. I have another spring to take it down to 8oz. if I'm so inclined.
Most of my rimfires run around that 12 to 16oz. pull weight. My old Squirrel rifle is at 6oz. and the Rem. 541/581 is at 9oz.

Sounds good. Does the trigger feel good on the CZ457, after the spring upgrade? Just wondering. I don't like mine to be that light, but I do like a trigger that breaks with little to no creep. That's one thing I like about my new model 52. That trigger is very sweet. Just wondering how the American compares.. As for buying the CZ457 Americans that I saw, I am pretty sure the one small town gunshop still has one. It is 70 miles away, but she gets very little business. I may sneak over there, and see if she still has it. ha ha.. and that one was $600.00, but it was a beautiful rifle.

Yes, it feels real good. Has a nice break to it. I had to adjust the take up and the overtravel to get it where I like them.
I would go buy it. It may give your 52 a run for the money and like the 52's, the CZ is not an UL. Mine with the scope is a shade over 7lbs.

I just picked up my CZ 457 American on the 15th, 6 lbs naked with the mud stock. It came with a factory trigger pull set at 4lbs 6oz that I adjusted down to 2lbs 2oz without charging any springs in it, the factory trigger does have a nice clean break and it’s for hunting so for now it’s set the same as the Timney in my deer rifle. You said you had a gritty bolt in yours, check the bolt bottom where the serial number is engraved into it, mine was very rough and I had to polish it to remove that grittiness out of the bolt, the engraving is so deep you can’t hurt it. I’ve put about a hundred rounds through it with my grandson and the bolt’s very smooth now. One thing that I just noticed today is that the plating on the end and sides of the firing pin is pealing off, if you’re having any light strikes or misfires you might want to take a look at it.

Great info there.


Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.

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Yes it is. Thanks Namuh.

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I think mine may have a refinish in it’s future after I shoot it some more and make sure it’s worth the trouble. I can’t seem to attach a larger image….. but it is muddy color.

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We have the same mud! shocked grin

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I got a CZ457 American for my birthday recently. It was a cold day at the range barely 5F when I shot it. So far so good, but it was cold and I packed up early and went home. I will be testing out about 8 different types of 22LR ammo I bought for it. I will also look into getting a little lighter trigger pull as well.

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Originally Posted by Hudge
I got a CZ457 American for my birthday recently. It was a cold day at the range barely 5F when I shot it. So far so good, but it was cold and I packed up early and went home. I will be testing out about 8 different types of 22LR ammo I bought for it. I will also look into getting a little lighter trigger pull as well.

The trigger is easy to adjust, I didn’t try to take it any lower once I reached the 2lb 2oz mark but it might go a little lower, pretty common to change the trigger spring out if you want it lighter. I was using the CCI 40grain, 1070fps standard velocity outta mine, one thing I noticed when I wasn’t wearing my earmuffs was how quiet it was with that 24” barrel. I’d like to here what your results are of the ammo you’re using once you have a chance to test them.

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Originally Posted by K22
We have the same mud! shocked grin

Got dang, you guys finding these things down in Louisiana or something. They are much nicer in my area (out west).. Just sayin.


Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by K22
We have the same mud! shocked grin

Got dang, you guys finding these things down in Louisiana or something. They are much nicer in my area (out west).. Just sayin.

Swamp creatures. grin

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Someone say Louisiana?!? Lol.

PD - I ran a Kepplinger set trigger on a #1 I had barreled in 6BR, set it accounted for alot of things, WT Deer at 400 yds, a 3-shot group - at 330 yds UNDER 1/2", various other game, and a head shot yote near 200 yds facing me. It was 8 oz when set, all using a good rest of course.

That said, I think 1.5 - 2# is a good 'floor' for a field trigger In a 22, I can live with 2-3 # just fine and my SA_22 OEM has not let me down yet.

Gun and Trigger weight matters, as does trigger surface area (wide triggers/shoe gives a lighter 'feel' ). Safety is my first priority on a field piece so I do use safeties and typically UL triggers. Just me.

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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by K22
We have the same mud! shocked grin

Got dang, you guys finding these things down in Louisiana or something. They are much nicer in my area (out west).. Just sayin.

I’m about as far west as you can go without falling into the Pacific Ocean.

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Originally Posted by Namuh
Originally Posted by K22
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by K22
You should have bought a 457 when you first seen them bsa.
With a spring change mine is down to a 12oz. trigger pull. I have another spring to take it down to 8oz. if I'm so inclined.
Most of my rimfires run around that 12 to 16oz. pull weight. My old Squirrel rifle is at 6oz. and the Rem. 541/581 is at 9oz.

Sounds good. Does the trigger feel good on the CZ457, after the spring upgrade? Just wondering. I don't like mine to be that light, but I do like a trigger that breaks with little to no creep. That's one thing I like about my new model 52. That trigger is very sweet. Just wondering how the American compares.. As for buying the CZ457 Americans that I saw, I am pretty sure the one small town gunshop still has one. It is 70 miles away, but she gets very little business. I may sneak over there, and see if she still has it. ha ha.. and that one was $600.00, but it was a beautiful rifle.

Yes, it feels real good. Has a nice break to it. I had to adjust the take up and the overtravel to get it where I like them.
I would go buy it. It may give your 52 a run for the money and like the 52's, the CZ is not an UL. Mine with the scope is a shade over 7lbs.
Originally Posted by K22
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by K22
You should have bought a 457 when you first seen them bsa.
With a spring change mine is down to a 12oz. trigger pull. I have another spring to take it down to 8oz. if I'm so inclined.
Most of my rimfires run around that 12 to 16oz. pull weight. My old Squirrel rifle is at 6oz. and the Rem. 541/581 is at 9oz.

Sounds good. Does the trigger feel good on the CZ457, after the spring upgrade? Just wondering. I don't like mine to be that light, but I do like a trigger that breaks with little to no creep. That's one thing I like about my new model 52. That trigger is very sweet. Just wondering how the American compares.. As for buying the CZ457 Americans that I saw, I am pretty sure the one small town gunshop still has one. It is 70 miles away, but she gets very little business. I may sneak over there, and see if she still has it. ha ha.. and that one was $600.00, but it was a beautiful rifle.

Yes, it feels real good. Has a nice break to it. I had to adjust the take up and the overtravel to get it where I like them.
I would go buy it. It may give your 52 a run for the money and like the 52's, the CZ is not an UL. Mine with the scope is a shade over 7lbs.

I just picked up my CZ 457 American on the 15th, 6 lbs naked with the mud stock. It came with a factory trigger pull set at 4lbs 6oz that I adjusted down to 2lbs 2oz without charging any springs in it, the factory trigger does have a nice clean break and it’s for hunting so for now it’s set the same as the Timney in my deer rifle. You said you had a gritty bolt in yours, check the bolt bottom where the serial number is engraved into it, mine was very rough and I had to polish it to remove that grittiness out of the bolt, the engraving is so deep you can’t hurt it. I’ve put about a hundred rounds through it with my grandson and the bolt’s very smooth now. One thing that I just noticed today is that the plating on the end and sides of the firing pin is pealing off, if you’re having any light strikes or misfires you might want to take a look at it.

After reading another tread on a different forum I would like to correct what I posted above “ check the bolt bottom where the serial number is engraved into it, mine was very rough and I had to polish it to remove that grittiness out of the bolt” When I got the gun after playing with it for awhile, I stripped it, cleaned, and lightly oiled it, the bolt was gritty. Looking at a post on line it told about the roughness of the serial number and that it drug on the bolt carrier. I polished the bottom of the bolt and the top of the bolt carrier to smooth them out. I also noticed the bolt had some lines and marks around it so I polished it with some 2000 grit and finished it off with a red crocus cloth, still had the marks and lines but the whole bolt felt slick. Today after posting this I’ve gone back and taking a black sharpie to the bolt, I blacken the front of it all the way back to the bolt handle and then reinstalled it, cocking and un-cocking it about 20 times. What I found is the front of the bolt body touches the action in multiple places around its circumference…. I couldn’t find the bolt touching the bottom where the serial number is engraved but I’ve already polished mine, so maybe it might drag but I didn’t see any evidence of it. I still would advise polishing this area of the bolt as it’s rough enough to catch any cleaning rags you’d use to wipe it down with, but I think I probably got more of the grittiness out by lightly polishing the rest of the bolt. I used to use a small oil lamp to blacken the metal but the Sharpie test works good and is easier to clean up with a little rubbing alcohol, try it for yourself and see what you think, as always YMMV.

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Originally Posted by Namuh
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by K22
We have the same mud! shocked grin

Got dang, you guys finding these things down in Louisiana or something. They are much nicer in my area (out west).. Just sayin.

I’m about as far west as you can go without falling into the Pacific Ocean.


Well, at least you can use that sob as a boat paddle, when you go out fishing..


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