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First I've ever seen or heard of one of these. Looks like an old Savage Model 7 action, but never seen one done up to look like a Garand before.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=88214770

I'm tellin' ya Jim, just buy it, you know ya want to.

isn't that a post WWII govt. acceptance stamp? GPC sells the stamps currently.

It is a Model 87M (Springfield or Stevens). I think they were made right after the war and most were sold through Wards (or one of the catalog stores). They were not cataloged by Savage.

Sold for 1700....I need to raise the price on my F's.

Da*n, and I passed one up a couple years ago at $500.00.

Jed, You got to get a couple military cartouche stamps thats all. Don

There's no such thing as a Garand training rifle. Popular misconception, kept alive by sellers preying on the ignorant. That's a J. Stevens model 87, which wasn't even made during the WWII war years. They started making them again in 1946.

Source: Bill West's Savage & Stevens Arms & History, Second edition.

The U.S. Military used M1 Garands during WWII to train draftees, not .22LR. Geez.

If you believed in this Garand training rifle, there's a 1899A in 303 savage on GB starting at $2500 that I think you should buy. You might also be interested in a bridge I'm selling in the SF bay area, called the Bay Bridge. Very nice, with a long suspension design on the west side of treasure island, and a girder design on the East side of treasure Island. A steal at $400 Million. PM me for the details.

Mike

How does Bill explain the Defence Acceptance markings on it? I've also seen a Savage model 220P 12ga that had military markings as well. Just another keen ploy by a slippery seller?

There were some companies selling the inspectors stamp several years ago, and may still sell there. They had stamps going all the way back to the 20's and 30's. It's just another buyer beware scam.

Learn something new everyday around here.

Thanks

It looks like the same action as my 87D.

It is, kinda.

The 87 would be a tube feed as well.

This gun on auction has the same action as the Savage model 6, Stevens 87 and the Springfield 187. Also the Savage model 7, Stevens 85 and Springfield 850.

I guess I'm picking flys&it outta pepper though as they both had the same action only one was mag fed and the other tube feed.

I've seen all manner of sporting arms from the WWII era and later with gov't acceptance/inspection stamps on them- including .22's from all the major mfgrs. A lot of shotguns were purchased for skeet shooting-training of aerial gunnery trainees. (A buddy has an L.C.Smith so marked, and he knows for a fact that's what it was used for.) Also, sporting arms were stored on many military bases for loan/rental to service personel for recreational purposes. (Another buddy swears he rented a Savage 99 at the old Navy base at Subic Bay, Phillipines, in the early 60's for the purpose of hunting wild pigs on Bataan. He doesn't remember if it had acceptance marks, but it was Parkerized. That would be an interesting variant to stumble onto.) I've also seen photos of P.O.W. guards toting Browning/Remington/(or Savage?) humpback autoloading shotguns.

Here's a little tid bit alot of you might not know.

There were 1873 Fox model B's made from 1942-1943 for WWII.

Next time your looking at a Fox see if it has any acceptence markings.

He doesn't. As other people pointed out, you could get the Defense acceptance stamps and make the marks yourself. And if they were US Defense acceptance stamps, they would have been much deeper stamps rather than the relatively light one shown in the photograph (e.g., they would have really have whacked that stamp hard). If you have a Garand, you'll see what I mean.

The U.S. Military wants everything numbered. You can be sure that if that "Garand trainer" was purchased by the military, it would have had a serial number on it somewhere. The fact that it doesn't have a S/N is a big giveaway. It probably would have been engraved as well, like my S&W 1917 revolver - U.S. Property.


Mike

Guys, reread Rick's post. These were sold through a discount department store, not DCM or CMP. I think Marlin made a 22 semi auto rifle that looked a lot like the M-1 carbine. Those are pricy too when you can find them.

I checked mine no stamps on the stock.