|
|
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 28,277
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 28,277 |
Not trying to change the topic, but if you want a dedicated long range rig for coyote, I would build a 6mm-06 and be done with it. Less muzzle blast, recoil and slightly better barrel life (the 6mm-06 is pretty hard on barrels too). With 110-115 VLD class bullets pushed close to 3,400 fps, you would smoke coyotes under the table. Check some of the ballistics on an ultra velocity 6mm and you will find it is very capable at insane distances. Rossi the 6/06 is one of my two main rigs for serious yote hunting. The other is my 7 Mashburn Super. What do you run one and what are you burning to get a 110-115 to 3400? Also how long of a tube? From my experience with the round that just isn't even remotely possible. Just a curious Dober
"True respect starts with the way you treat others, and it is earned over a lifetime of demonstrating kindness, honor and dignity"....Tony Dungy
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 548
Campfire Regular
|
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 548 |
MD,
I don't own one as of yet. I shoot a 24-inch HB 243 Win. My friend has used the 6mm-06 extensively for coyote on a TCR83 w/Shilen 27-inch barrel. I could not recall the overall top end from his loadings and looked at some overly optimistic QuickLoad data, hence the "close to". I know the cartridge is unbelivebly fast with 70-100 grain class bullets. What is your set up (rifle, scope, etc.)? What weight bullets do you push and what do your loads yield? I have always been interested in building a 6mm-06 w/26-inch barrel and believe it to be the ultimate chambering for long distance coyote.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 7,110
Campfire Tracker
|
|
OP
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 7,110 |
Basically here the round is about the last part of the equation I'd be fretting over.
The shooter is the most important part and I've never met one yet that could take dogs past 500 with any degree of regularity let alone consistently.
The scope, the LRF, the trigger is way more important for sure. Now whether it is a big 6.5 or a big 7 it just don't matter and it is only ballistic gack 101.
Taking yotes conistenly to 300 is very doable, and taking them to 45 or so can be done with someone really set up and savy. Now once you break past 500 for the most part the idea of taking yotes consistently on the first shot (which is the only one you'll get worth taking) is incredibly tough to do and darn few in the world have the capability.
I once worried about this kind of stuff buy now I only worry about killing every one I get a shot at to 300 and then killing a high percentage of the yotes taken to 500.
Not trying to say you're barking up the wrong tree here Cummins just that it is one incredibly tough one.
How heavy do you plan to have your rig by the way?
Thx
Dober well I don't think its all that hard given the way I am shooting them, I have a decent rest for field conditions, at 500 or more yards I normally have a few moments to make the shot. I am using one of dog gone goods filled bags Its not the steadyiest rest for bench conditions but I think I could still shoot MOA at 100 yards with it, the last two trips I have already taken yotes at extended ranges, got one at 666yds and one right at 400 yards, this was done with a 270 win, and a zeiss conquest 3x9 with target turret added. missed at 675yards, my fault jerked the gun, and another at about 800 yards, I forgot to judge a slight cross wind and hit about 8" to the left, these shots would be a lot easier to make with a 264 win shooting a VLD bullet at max speed, they have much better numbers than the 140 .277 accubonds have at 2900 FPS I am shooting them at
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 35,900
Campfire 'Bwana
|
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 35,900 |
The 264 strikes me as being an uncommonly good long range coyote rifle.Very accurate IME and does not kick worth a darn.Seems it would have lots of punch, too.
BTW how come no one talks about the 240 Weatherby? Isn't it a 6/06 with a belt? Has a 30/06 head size, too, no? With VLD's seems it would be really good...
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 151,725 Likes: 14
Campfire Savant
|
Campfire Savant
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 151,725 Likes: 14 |
I have several of both, you can't go wrong either way. The 7 mag better if you plan to use it on Elk or Moose, but for deer size game the 264 is great
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 44,859 Likes: 4
Campfire 'Bwana
|
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 44,859 Likes: 4 |
Are you an archaeologist on the side?
|
|
|
|
|
532 members (12344mag, 2500HD, 10gaugemag, 1beaver_shooter, 1badf350, 1234, 65 invisible),
2,816
guests, and
1,152
robots. |
|
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,192,315
Posts18,487,290
Members73,968
| |
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|
